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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.It just gets me going when people are all "well study the game like I do". Please. I've watched/played alot of football in my life. Welker is a GREAT and RARE talent... and in the right situations (given his situation here) he will continue to blossom and put up godly numbers.
Seeing as the trend right now is big fast outside receivers (given all the penalties and suspect pass defenses), I dont see as team coming out and forefitting top picks/cash for welker... Therefore, No I wouldn't make the trade, now is not the time- it may never be the time at this point.
Great example of why "stats are for losers". Edelman is such a horrible receiver that in his rookie year, playing a position that he's never played before, at any level. Edelman somehow managed to produce the 2nd most yards of any Patriot rookie WR in the BB era. Only Deion Branch, who had many more snaps and looks, gained 84 more yds. And if you include the playoff game, he gained more yds. How about THEM stats.
Here's the situation. In the ONLY time he's had to get regular snaps as the slot receiver, Edelman produced, despite the fact he never played WR before. It would be hard to believe that 2 years later, he isn't a better receiver than he was in his first years.
The point is Edelman plays behind the WR who has been the most productive receiver in the league during his time in the the league, but we DO know, that in the one time he had to get some regular snaps at the position he produced. The fact is that neither you or I don't know how good or bad Edelman would be if he took most of the snaps at slot receiver. We just have a short history to give us an indication....and based on that small sample, its likely he would
You didn't watch a single Patriots game all season, did you?
You're either overrating Welker or underrating Johnson.Holy hell. Let me get my calculator... average $16MM/yr. Honestly, I'd rather have two Welkers than one Calvin, at that price.
You're either overrating Welker or underrating Johnson.
You're either overrating Welker or underrating Johnson.
No not one single game! Didn't even make use of my season tickets at all.
You must be one of those fantasy football guys.Johnson barely overtook Welker in yards in the last game of the season, in a game were Detroit and GB played no defense(and GB was resting starters).
2 1.5 k receivers >>> 1 1.6k receiver.
No not one single game! Didn't even make use of my season tickets at all.
Most of our Scoring came from Our Tightends... JUST SAYING. Infact, most teams backed off from welker giving him all the room to put up the stats he did and concentrated on taking away Gronk as best as they could because they knew Welker wasn't going to kill them on the scoreboard... JUST SAYING.
Very interesting analysis, that may very well hold a lot of water.
I am still under the impression that there isn't as much reason to believe that we'll actually see enough of a diminished skillset for what the team is asking him to do here; although some may agree or disagree.
Not suggesting that #83 isn't a great athelete, just that the slot position isn't going to demand as much athleticism as the outside WR's will, as far as losing a step or two. I feel that Welker's bread and butter is about (in order):
1. The ability to properly read the defense and be on the same page as TFB. This skill is certainly NOT going to diminish.
2. The ability to properly take a hit and bounce back--although I also have noticed at times that he knows when to go down too, and that may save him from some unnecessary hits over the next few yrs.
3. The ability to have good enough hands to make the grab, which should not diminish over the next 3 yrs.
4. The ability to put a juke move or two on the defender. This would likely be the 2nd most likely to diminish skill and worry, behind bouncing back from the hits.
5. The ability to properly run down the field for 5-10-15 yds on the majority of the plays. I would think we're safe here.
The wildcard of course is the ability to take more hits than the average guy like Larry Fitzgerald/Calvin Johnson, but there have also been some RB's who continue to play past the age of 33-34, so I think we're good with another 3 yrs in my opinion.