Coverage Skills Of Our Safeties

[Ring 6]

I hope we sign Ihedigbo back. Chung hasn't shown that he can be healthy all season, and IMO Ihedigbo plays SS better than Chung. .

Dude, drinking heavily on Sunday night is never a good idea.

 

[VrabelJr]

Ihedigbo isn't better than Chung, however, the dropoff from Chung to Ihedigbo isn't that big. The way I see it is we need another safety that is better than Chung. Obviously Chung will still start but he cannot be our best safety.

 

[JackBauer]

Chung is a solid starting safety with some remaining upside, but has had trouble staying healthy.

Ihedigbo is a special teams player who, like Sergio Brown, has no business seeing the field in regular defensive packages. While Chung is merely average in coverage, at the very least he's usually in position, where as Ihedigbo rarely is. The next time I see him make a play on the ball will be the first.

 

[VrabelJr]

To be fair to Ihedigbo, the only time he was playing is when Chung was injured which means he had to make up for Chung AND the crappy guy playing next to him which was Moore, Brown, or Ventrone. I like Ihedigbo as a back up/role player and he isn't nearly as bad as everyone makes him out to be.

 

[JackBauer]

I don't know about that. He's pretty damn bad.

But you're right in the sense that he'd be much less bad as a fourth safety, since he wouldn't be seeing the field except as a contingency.

 

[condon84]

Dude, drinking heavily on Sunday night is never a good idea.

Chung is one of the most overrated player in these forums. There is not a big difference between the two and Ihedigbo actually played better than him last year. That doesn't mean he is good, just goes to illustrate that Chung isn't more than mediocre. Sorry that hurts your feelings.

 

[VrabelJr]

Condon84 is correct. As I indicated above, if we sign or a draft a safety it is with the intention that they are better than Chung and our current #2, not just better than our current #2. Chung is just the best of the worst and he's a #2 on most other teams.

 

[Ring 6]

Chung is one of the most overrated player in these forums. There is not a big difference between the two and Ihedigbo actually played better than him last year. That doesn't mean he is good, just goes to illustrate that Chung isn't more than mediocre. Sorry that hurts your feelings.

It has nothing to do with my feelings, and everything to do with you not understanding safety play.

 

[Armchair Quarterback]

The fact that the Patriots don't run FS/SS notwithstanding...

...no. Just no.

That's nonsense.

 

[condon84]

It has nothing to do with my feelings, and everything to do with you not understanding safety play.

You don't know anymore about safety play than any other poster here. The fact that you still think you are more knowledgeable about football than anyone here is an "Andy" problem.

 

[JackBauer]

Chung may well be overrated on these forums, but the notion that Ihedigbo was the superior player last year is...well...unhinged.

 

[JackBauer]

That's nonsense.

Actually, it isn't.

 

[Armchair Quarterback]

Actually, it isn't.

Why because you say so?

 

[JackBauer]

Why because you say so?

No, because it's true.

 

[Sicilian]

Why because you say so?

I've been hearing this for a LONG time from numerous people who cover the team. Whatever the exact responsibilities of the traditional FS vs. SS in the NFL, the Patriots apparently organize them differently.

 

[Armchair Quarterback]

No, because it's true.

Then what exactly do they do?

 

[Deus Irae]

I hope we sign Ihedigbo back. Chung hasn't shown that he can be healthy all season, and IMO Ihedigbo plays SS better than Chung. Take the names out of their jerseys and evaluate both of them for their play last season and Ihedigbo was a better performer.

We do need a coverage safety back there. Converting one of our corners into a FS full time might not be a bad idea.

“Sometimes we can control who is the strong safety and who is the weak safety but a lot of times we can’t so they really need to learn both responsibilities for when it gets to that point, which like I said, inevitably it does.”

“That’s the way it’s been for – really I’d say about the last nine years or so,” Belichick concluded. “From when it was Rodney Harrison and Eugene Wilson, even though Rodney was more of a strong safety and Eugene was more of a free safety, both of those players could play both positions to a degree. Ever since then, we have always, again for the reasons I just talked about, we have tried to have players on our team that have some degree of versatility because the offense forces you to do that.

BostonHerald.com - Blogs: Rap Sheet» Blog Archive » Professor Belichick explains why safeties can’t play just one position anymore…

As I, and others have said repeatedly, the Patriots don't play a true SS/FS system. They play more of a Left/Right safety system.

 

[mgteich]

Of course, what you say is true.

However, there is also a need for safeties who can play center field while the other safety gives run support or blitzes.

The bottom line is that it is not a good thing to have four SS types as our four safeties.

BostonHerald.com - Blogs: Rap Sheet» Blog Archive » Professor Belichick explains why safeties can’t play just one position anymore…

As I, and others have said repeatedly, the Patriots don't play a true SS/FS system. They play more of a Left/Right safety system.

 

[condon84]

BostonHerald.com - Blogs: Rap Sheet» Blog Archive » Professor Belichick explains why safeties can’t play just one position anymore…

As I, and others have said repeatedly, the Patriots don't play a true SS/FS system. They play more of a Left/Right safety system.

BB says to a "degree". I don't think it's a coincidence that Harrison then and Chung now play closer to the LOS than the other safety playing along them.

 

[Deus Irae]

BB says to a "degree". I don't think it's a coincidence that Harrison then and Chung now play closer to the LOS than the other safety playing along them.

Do you think it's a coincidence that it's not always the same safety playing closer to the LOS? Furthermore, Chung has served as the team's nickel in the past. Not just dime, but nickel.

And BB refutes your position. End of story.