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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.The pats fixed their passing game problems in a week between 2006 and 2007. Outside of moss, the pats have not had a real #1 WR under the BB regime (I refuse to call welker a #1)
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In 24 hours of free agency Colston is gone, V-Jax is gone, Garcon is gone, Wayne is gone, Meahem is gone and Josh Morgan is gone. You guys just don't get it do you, if you want a quality free agency then you have to start courting them right from the get go.
Still not worried about it at least at this point. As Rotoworld pointed out, Lloyd has drawn little public interest so far because it looks like a foregone conclusion that Lloyd will come to NE. I am guessing that the 49er visit is more to get the Pats to react. I can't see Lloyd wanting to play with Moss and Alex Smith and the run first offense in San Fran.
think its a negotiating ploy ... i know the tension between condon and belichick is pretty deep....
Do you really think that the Patriots will draft a receiver early and rely on him to be a big contributor from day one? I don't and I'm sure no one else does. It's the PATRIOTS dude, they've never drafted a receiver high that has panned out at all let alone draft one that they can rely upon to be the other guy next to Welker. The Patriots are cheap, just accept that man, they'd rather sit around waiting for free agents prices to lower while they all sign with other teams because the Patriots just wait it out and always look for the cheap option. How did Albert Haynesworth turn out? How did Ocho Cinco work out? How did Joey Galloway work out? How did Torry Holt work out? How did Reche Freakin Caldwell work out? The last time they went for some players in free agency (Welker, Moss, Stallworth, Thomas) they went to the superbowl. And don't use the tired line of "well they went to the superbowl this year without spending" because that is a crock. Everbody knows the Patriots had an easy path to the Superbowl, the only other legit team in the AFC was Baltimore and they should've lost to them. What crap was in the AFC this year? Roethlisberger was hurt, Manning was gone, Denver was mediocre and Houston had TJ YATES playing quarterback. The Patriots are a cheap team and that's all there is to it.
There is an immense possibility that this is a leverage ploy by Lloyd, who killed any that he already had a few days ago.
Hopefully this is the case. But as long as we re-sign Branch, I don't care where we get our new WR(s) from.
It's the 49'ers who are blowing it.
Randy Moss and Brandon Lloyd on the same team?? With Alex Smith at QB??
Ouch!!
.......or just keep going to Super Bowls......
You guys do realize though there's a man named Mike Wallace in RFA, right??
It's amazing how people misremember history. Felger was doing the same thing yesterday, saying 2007 was the last year they "loaded up" in free agency. You know who they signed in free agency in 2007? Kyle Brady, Sammy Morris, Kelley Washington, and Donte Stallworth, all of them for minor deals. Welker was their biggest sign, and he was a RFA: we sent 2nd and 7th rounders for him and and gave him $18 million over 5 years. Moss was a flier on a down-and-out veteran; we gave up a 4th rounder and paid him $3 million that year (he had to restructure to come).
So yes, we signed a lot of guys, but none of them were break-the-bank signs. In fact they were very much in the spirit of last year's Ochocinco and Haynesworth deals -- plays for seemingly undervalued talent, made at minimal long-term risk. Moss didn't get his big deal until the next year, after he'd proven himself with the Pats.
Oh, and by the way, the Pats also lost a lot of their own free agents that year, including some big ones. Dan Graham, Corey Dillon, Tebucky Jones, Banta-Cain -- they all left. While a lot of us were pleased about the Welker deal, which came early in free agency, the Moss deal wasn't until the draft.
The Patriots never come out on the first day of free agency hurling money around and peeing on every tree. The closest they ever came to that was when they went after Colvin. But they almost always spend all the money they have and acquire lots of guys, eventually.
It's natural to freak out when free agency starts and your team's big sign is Niko Koutovides. But it's also not rational. We were never going to give Vincent Jackson $13 million a year. But they do have money this year and I'm sure they will spend it on somebody. They also have lots of ammo for a trade, and there are probably guys we're not thinking of who will be part of the team next year. If a 31 year-old receiver like Lloyd signs elsewhere for a lot of money, that will be a drag, but hardly the end of the world.
Yeah that's it.....buy your tickets and hotel rooms now!!!.....WHOOOOO!
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