* Ye Official 2012 Mock Draft Thread!! *

[VrabelJr]

Yeah, it shows. Forgive me for using my brain to analyze those scouting reports. And where are the scouting reports from those 5 "very respectable" scouts who called Bequette very stiff prior to the combine?

Derek Wolfe Highlight: 2011 Big East Defensive POY - YouTube
Wolfe playing same conference as Reyes. So far the knock on Wolfe was that he played "feeble opposition" in Big East. Reyes probably played the top opposition. HAHA.

Player 1 who puts up much worse numbers than player 2 playing the same conference and same position is suddenly a much better prospect and "talent" than player 2. Only in the scouting reports of clown scouts, same idiots who called Bequette "very stiff" prior to the combine.

I don't agree with either of you idiots and you're clearly both thick skulled but here goes anyway: Football is a team sport and Derek Wolfe had much different assignments than Kendall Reyes had. Wolfe excels at playing the 3-technique/under rush DT position and only the truly elite ones get the big bucks (think Ndamukung Suh). Reyes on the other hand would play the spot on the DLine next to Wolfe and also offers the versatility of playing a DE spot in the 3-4. Reyes skill set is just more sought after in this day and age in the NFL.

All that being said, Wolfe would be a great 3rd down DT in our 4-3 scheme which is a position we clearly lacked last year after Myron Pryor got hurt. So as much as I know you love Derek Wolfe and I hate to break your heart, he is going to be a 3rd down rush DT option on most of the teams in the NFL. He could also be a project at the 3-4 5 technique DE spot.

 

[manxman2601]

I don't know if anyone has seen the new WalterFootball mock yet, but I think a lot of people will be excited by it. I believe everyone but the 4th round pick is someones binky on this board.

27. Michael Brockers- DE/DT- LSU
31. Andre Branch- DE/OLB- Clemson
48. Harrison Smith- S- Notre Dame
63. Marvin Jones- WR- Cal
94. Casey Hayward- Vanderbilt
126. Donte Piage-Moss- DE/OLB- UNC (Jarius Wright went the next pick)

While I have to say, I wouldn't quite class any of these players as Binky's of mine, I don't think we could have a better draft than this (apart from DPM at 126). My only problem is I think all of the first 5 guys are better players than the position they are selected, so I don't think they will be there. If they are though, I think this could arguably go down as BB best draft ever.

And for manxman, Jamel Fleming goes 102, so you could easily put him instead of Hayward, although I really like both.

Don't have a problem with Casey heyward, Wilfork, was one of my earliest favourites in the draft. In some ways he may be a better fit because he'll play in the slot here.

 

[patsderoer]

Reyes on the other hand would play the spot on the DLine next to Wolfe and also offers the versatility of playing a DE spot in the 3-4. Reyes skill set is just more sought after in this day and age in the NFL.

And Wolfe cannot play this spot because ...?
The fact that he posted better 3-cone and short-shuttle numbers than Reyes at the combine probably means he cant. HAHA. What idiocy.
And at NT, the Pats already have one of the best in the business, Wilfork.

All that being said, Wolfe would be a great 3rd down DT in our 4-3 scheme which is a position we clearly lacked last year after Myron Pryor got hurt. So as much as I know you love Derek Wolfe and I hate to break your heart, he is going to be a 3rd down rush DT option on most of the teams in the NFL. He could also be a project at the 3-4 5 technique DE spot.

And Wolfe cannot play the first 2 downs because ...?
LOL what idiocy you spewed. So Wolfe had 21.5 TFL, while Reyes had much less 13.5, yet Wolfe cannot play the first 2 downs, but Reyes probably can. HAHA.
Its getting funnier by the day exposing all the idiocy around.

 

[Mark Morse]

And Wolfe cannot play this spot because ...?
...
Its getting funnier by the day exposing all the idiocy around.

I like Wolfe and thats why he is on my mock draft ... could he be drafted higher, absolutely, all it takes is one GM! You have your opinion and I am looking at what everyone (including your opinion) has to say about Wolfe.

The point that I am trying to make is that BB will trade draft picks to stock up more picks later in the draft. Players like Wylie and Wolfe are projected to go later in the draft.

Reyes, Robinson and McClellin I have moved up because I think they will go higher than projected. You think Wolfe will go higher than projected ( who knows you might be right).

 

[Off The Grid]

"THREE Dollars??? That thing's worth at LEAST fifteen!!! How DARE you undercharge me!!!"

Thanks for exhibiting the AMAZING discipline to be such gentlemen, gentlemen.

I'll contact the Mods, just in case nobody already has...

 

[VrabelJr]

I look forward to Derek Wolfe getting drafted in the 5th round and Patsdoerer not showing his face around here.

Actually, he will probably still be around just to tell us that the 31 teams that didn't draft Derek Wolfe are run by "idiots that know nothing about Football HAHAHA"

 

[Off The Grid]

I look forward to Derek Wolfe getting drafted in the 5th round and Patsdoerer not showing his face around here.

Actually, he will probably still be around just to tell us that the 31 teams that didn't draft Derek Wolfe are run by "idiots that know nothing about Football HAHAHA"

Just for the record, my friend: This was my FIRST "Report This Post" in my time, here ~ that I can recall, anyway, and I named both Doerer's initiation of this Fracas ~ post #848, I believe ~ AND your post ~ #861.

And I SERIOUSLY doubt that I'm the only one.

You had NO business calling Pat in PA an idiot, as he is clearly one of the most DEMONSTRABLY intelligent cats around these parts, and has contributed IMMENSELY.

Not trying to start anything with you, my friend: I just feel you have a right to know who's reporting you.

I have absolutely nothing personal against EITHER of you, but I am BEGGING you ~ and you, Doerer ~ to take this elsewhere.

 

[patsderoer]

I look forward to Derek Wolfe getting drafted in the 5th round and Patsdoerer not showing his face around here.

Actually, he will probably still be around just to tell us that the 31 teams that didn't draft Derek Wolfe are run by "idiots that know nothing about Football HAHAHA"

You are probably right. Wolfe and Bequette should go undrafted. They probably dont even belong on the football field. Only the great athletes who run great 40 should be there. I mean, who needs great pass rushers. Only stupid posters like me. Its not like this is a passing league, with QBs throwing for 5k like its nothing. Its not like the Pats needed guys who know how to get to the QB in the SB.
Better to draft "talents" with "untapped potential", who couldnt get it done against college level OLs, but will surely have no problems manhandling the inferior NFL OLs.

 

[patsderoer]

Just for the record, my friend: This was my FIRST "Report This Post" in my time, here ~ that I can recall, anyway, and I named both Doerer's initiation of this Fracas ~ post #848, I believe ~ AND your post ~ #861.

I have absolutely nothing personal against EITHER of you, but I am BEGGING you ~ and you, Doerer ~ to take this elsewhere.

Why exactly are you reporting my post? I bring up FACTS, to support my position. Player 2 puts up double # of sacks and a lot more TFLs playing in the same position in the same conference than player 1, yet he is rated around 200, with player 1 going 1st round? It is BS and I called it like it is. BS.

 

[VrabelJr]

We all know that saying about stats...

 

[patsderoer]

We all know that saying about stats...

Ofcourse who cares about stats. Who cares about Brady's or Gronk's stats. I wonder why the Pats don't release them already, it saves them some big $$$. They should be replaced with college guys who couldn't get it done in college, but, because of their "talents" and "untapped potential" will have no problem taking the NFL by storm.

 

[Merril Hoge's Tie Knot]

LOL what is this BullSh1t. Wolfe played same conference as Reyes and put up almost double # of sacks (9.5 vs 4.5) and a lot more TFLs (21.5 vs 13.5), Wolfe also had a better 3-cone and short shuttle at the combine, yet somehow Wolfe should be drafted around 200, while Reyes in the first round? HAHAHA. WTF is this. Complete joke. I'll take Wolfe ahead of Reyes anytime.

Its actually more than double, not almost double.

4.5 x 2 = 9

9 < 9.5

 

[patsfaninpa]

NFL.COM has a 1rounder from Albert Breer, Reuter, Brooks and Steve Wyche.

Breer
D. Still
P. Konz

Brooks
M. Brockers
M. Barron

Reuter
A. Branch
S. Gilmore

Wyche
W. Mercilus
A. Dennard

Love the first two. Could have F. Cox or C. Upshaw with Reuter's board at 27.

Mock Drafts Central

 

[LuthierJr]

I'm seeing a lot of our mocks with Ryan Broyles in the 3-4th round range. If we can get him there because of the knee injury it would be amazing. I think this guy is going to be a very productive receiver in the NFL. I've seen ever game he has played at OU and he is the best receiver I've seen come through OU in a long long time. He is a young Deion Branch. I hope the knee checks out for him and we get a mid round steal on what would have been 1-2nd round talent.

 

[Snake Eyes]

I'm seeing a lot of our mocks with Ryan Broyles in the 3-4th round range. If we can get him there because of the knee injury it would be amazing. I think this guy is going to be a very productive receiver in the NFL. I've seen ever game he has played at OU and he is the best receiver I've seen come through OU in a long long time. He is a young Deion Branch. I hope the knee checks out for him and we get a mid round steal on what would have been 1-2nd round talent.

While I certainly like Broyles I think Devon Wylie will fill a very similar role and will be available later on in the draft.

 

[PATSNUTme]

WARNING
Keep your disagreements and responses civil. I have kicked 2 people off this thread and should it continue on other threads some will be going on a posting vacation.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

I would argue that he's closer to the Pats mold for a high draft investment at OLB than Reed or Barwin (although Barwin was one of my all-time greatest binkies),

The thing that confused a lot of folks about not drafting Barwin is that he seemed like a literal Vrabel clone: enough speed to rush the passer, and while he was learning the D, he could still line up as a goal line TE. It's not like the Pats had GRONKnandez at that point. . . .

 

[captain stone]

NFL.COM has a 1rounder from Albert Breer, Reuter, Brooks and Steve Wyche.

Breer
D. Still
P. Konz

Brooks
M. Brockers
M. Barron

Reuter
A. Branch
S. Gilmore

Wyche
W. Mercilus
A. Dennard

Love the first two. Could have F. Cox or C. Upshaw with Reuter's board at 27.

Mock Drafts Central

Disagree w/ Breer's mock. I just don't trust PSU players. I'd rather have 2 of Branch, Hightower, Perry,
Worthy, Kendall Reyes or Harrison Smith. And as long as at least 1 of Koppen/Connolly are re-signed,
then we can wait a couple of rounds to see if Ben Jones or Phil Blake are still available.

I could def. live w/ Brooks' mock.

Having to choose btwn Branch, Cox & Upshaw, as per Reuter's mock, would be a nice problem to have;
but if I'm taking a DB at 31, then I'm taking Mark Barron.

And I would remove Dennard in favor of Smith or Reyes at 31.

 

[patsfaninpa]

Disagree w/ Breer's mock. I just don't trust PSU players. I'd rather have 2 of Branch, Hightower, Perry,
Worthy, Kendall Reyes or Harrison Smith. And as long as at least 1 of Koppen/Connolly are re-signed,
then we can wait a couple of rounds to see if Ben Jones or Phil Blake are still available.

I could def. live w/ Brooks' mock.

Having to choose btwn Branch, Cox & Upshaw, as per Reuter's mock, would be a nice problem to have;
but if I'm taking a DB at 31, then I'm taking Mark Barron.

And I would remove Dennard in favor of Smith or Reyes at 31.

You mean recent PSU standouts like; Tamba Hali, Sean Lee, Navarro Bowman, Stefan Wisniewski? I think Odrick is going to be a solid player too. Every college has busts. Bama's boys haven't exactly been tearing it up in the pros either like; Andre Smith in 09. 2010 2PICKS like Kareem Jackson, Javier Arenas and Terrence Cody have struggled to earn a starting job. Even Rolando McClain hasn't quite lived up to the hype. Not to mention his pulling a gun on someone last year. Julio Jones and Marcel Dareus look great. But, James Carpenter was a reach and I don't see Mark Ingram as an elite back. But, it is early for them.

 

[jmt57]

2/27/2012 one-round mock by Rob Rang of CBS Sports

2012 NFL Mock Drafts - CBSSports.com NFLDraftScout.com

27. New England Patriots (from New Orleans)

Fletcher Cox, DT, Mississippi State: Cox will appeal to Bill Belichick for various reasons, not the least of which is the fact that the 6-4, 295-pound junior is just scratching the surface of his potential. And make no mistake, the potential is there for Cox to be a star. The Bulldog defensive tackle earned the SEC Defensive Lineman of the Week four times this season and is highly regarded by scouts because of his size, strength and ability to play inside or out in multiple fronts. That type of versatility will also certainly intrigue Belichick.



31. New England Patriots

Nick Perry, DE, Southern California: Some teams are hesitant to grade Perry as a first-round prospect due to the fact that he elected to leave USC after just one highly productive season. He led the Pac-12 with 9.5 sacks in a breakout junior campaign. There are scouts who do believe he's just scratching the surface of his potential and others who like him best as a defensive end rather than an outside linebacker in the 3-4. For Patriots coach Bill Belichick, Perry would likely be asked to play both positions.​