"Tom brady has the strongest arm in the nfl.."

[Palm Beach Pats Fan]

Means almost nothing, since as Patchick said, Jamarcus Russell had perhaps the strongest arm in NFL history, throwing (in practice) 70 yards on the fly from his knees.

You need the arm strength to make all of the necessary throws in your offense.

Then you need accuracy, poise, intelligence, touch, an ability to look off defenders, elusiveness, decisiveness, and maybe some other things too.

Arm strength would be somewhere in the middle of that list, in terms of importance, as long as your QB can make all of the necessary throws featured in your offense

 

[QuantumMechanic]

Randy Moss SB 42 almost catch - YouTube

For all the crap A$ante $amuel gets for missing the INT earlier, why does Moss get off the hook for not catching that? It hits him right on the hands and it was only minimally-touched (if at all) by the DB.

 

[tasmlab]

This is what I thought, that Brady was obsessive about his mechanics, using his body and physics properly, not just his arm muscles, to throw the ball. Which also made him good at driving the longest golf ball despite their being OL on the team who are strong enough to lift a car over their heads.

And Vick has to be able to make throws from compromised positions being on the run. If he didn't have the strength, he couldn't be feasible.

I had read a few years ago that Kyle Bowler was a brute in arm strength and could throw over 50 yards while kneeling.

Brady's arm strength is attributed to his excellent technique. With good throwing technique a little goes a long way. However, there are videos from back in the day of Michael Vick winging it 50 or 60 yards from his knees.

 

[Seacoast Fan]

I think TB is the GOAT but I would never have put him in the top five of the current NFL QBs for arm strength...so I clicked on the link and read the article, and found this:

"What separates Tom from Vick and McNabb is his visual awareness of the field---he knows exactly where to throw and when---and just that split second of superior awareness gives him the extra edge of set-up with his legs. Arm strength, ironically, all comes from the legs. You achieve explosive arm power primarily through setting a strong base with the legs."

I still dont think he throws the hardest ball, if that is how arm strength is defined, but I agree 100% that TB has the best visual awareness. Plus, his ability to sense the rush, and slide up in the pocket, all while NEVER taking his eyes off the receivers downfield AND going through his reads, plus his accuracy and touch....all of that together (and his football intelligence and competitiveness) make him the GOAT in my book.

 

[MoLewisrocks]

Brady doesn't have the strongest arm on the team, that would be young Mr Mallett, however he has a strong enough arm to be the best QB in the NFL, ever.

In and of itself the kind of raw arm strength young Mr. Mallet possesses will, along with fifty cents, always get you at least a cup of coffee in this league. Kind of like Mr. Cutler or Mr. Romo or Mr. Young or a lot of misters... Some guys have made a career out of that, but it's getting harder to get by on raw talent in this league because of the level of talent playing on the other side of the ball and coaching schemes and the chaos they can unleash to counter raw talent. Brady's skills are less likely to erode suddenly because they were developed rather than gifted. There is a reason he can play with any receiver who can run a precise route and catch the dam ball with his hands. He doesn't require the 6'5" leaping freak or the 40 yard burner, although he can adapt and play to their skill set too...until some DC schemes or injuries conspire to take them out of the game. Which is why he's been a more consistent performer and his team more consistent winners than any of his contemporaries irrespective of individual stats amassed.

He came within a half of taking a team with Reche Caldwell as it's #1 to a Superbowl and the following season came within 2 minutes of winning 19 straight on a team with Randy Moss as it's #1. Find me another QB who can do that and you will have found one in his league... Maybe that is why players who have competed against him are starting to make their own assessments about who the greatest ever actually is...

 

[RJB87]

Jay Cutler is getting by with a lot more than just his arm strength. He has earned my respect a lot the last couple years. How many QBs can play 6 on 11 and still win 13 games?

 

[Uncle Rico]

I think TB is the GOAT but I would never have put him in the top five of the current NFL QBs for arm strength...so I clicked on the link and read the article, and found this:

"What separates Tom from Vick and McNabb is his visual awareness of the field---he knows exactly where to throw and when---and just that split second of superior awareness gives him the extra edge of set-up with his legs. Arm strength, ironically, all comes from the legs. You achieve explosive arm power primarily through setting a strong base with the legs."

I still dont think he throws the hardest ball, if that is how arm strength is defined, but I agree 100% that TB has the best visual awareness. Plus, his ability to sense the rush, and slide up in the pocket, all while NEVER taking his eyes off the receivers downfield AND going through his reads, plus his accuracy and touch....all of that together (and his football intelligence and competitiveness) make him the GOAT in my book.

Exactly what I took from the article: arm strength in execution of plays, paired with accuracy and awareness. For example, when you consider all those things: Reading the coverage, making the decision, accuracy, and velocity, I wonder how many other NFL QBs could have made that TD throw to Hernandez Sunday.

 

[MoLewisrocks]

Jay Cutler is getting by with a lot more than just his arm strength. He has earned my respect a lot the last couple years. How many QBs can play 6 on 11 and still win 13 games?

Depends...do they all get to play with Devin Hester on their ST???

 

[RJB87]

Not very many. QB arm strength is just like 40 yard dashes, splits, and cone drills. There's this thing called game speed and that's all that matters on Sundays.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

Jay Cutler is getting by with a lot more than just his arm strength. He has earned my respect a lot the last couple years. How many QBs can play 6 on 11 and still win 13 games?

Heh. Turnstiles would be an improvement versus that line.

 

[Sparetire]

Who cares about if he has the strongest arm or not? he is good, very good. thats what its all about

 

[NinjaZX6R]

For all the crap A$ante $amuel gets for missing the INT earlier, why does Moss get off the hook for not catching that? It hits him right on the hands and it was only minimally-touched (if at all) by the DB.

Cause...Shamuel screwed up twice. Not once.

BTW..holy wow....I must have taken too many shots of everclear that night...cause I don't remember that play.

 

[upstater1]

Cause...Shamuel screwed up twice. Not once.

BTW..holy wow....I must have taken too many shots of everclear that night...cause I don't remember that play.

Hard to blame Randy but I can't help but feel the old Randy Moss would have elevated and snatched that out of the air.

 

[upstater1]

Exactly what I took from the article: arm strength in execution of plays, paired with accuracy and awareness. For example, when you consider all those things: Reading the coverage, making the decision, accuracy, and velocity, I wonder how many other NFL QBs could have made that TD throw to Hernandez Sunday.

Shaw is saying though that Brady delivers the fastest ball precisely because of all those reasons. He's able to set himself better than the other big-armed QBs, and therefore this means that he consistently delivers the fastest ball.

 

[RJB87]

Brady uses his entire body to deliver the ball. That's why the injury to his knee was so important. Consider the fact that Phillip Rivers could still throw the ball almost the same with a torn ACL. Brady uses a "over the top" throwing motion that uses your core and momentum of your front planted foot. Rivers uses a sidearm. Guys like Big Ben, Vick, Newton, etc. have more of a "flicking" throwing motion.

 

[Seacoast Fan]

Randy Moss SB 42 almost catch - YouTube

Painful but, 68 yards on a line, throw was effortless.

It's actually more yards if you consider he threw it from the right hash to the left side of the field.

That's an 80 yard fastball with little air under it.

Against my better judgment, I watched the clip. Still painful. Stahan's narration didn't help.
I had forgotten just how close TB and Moss were to hooking up on that play. If TB throws the ball a yard further (and that is not a criticism, it was still an amazing throw)...Moss either takes it in for a TD or, at least, the Pats can kick a field goal.

 

[Uncle Rico]

Shaw is saying though that Brady delivers the fastest ball precisely because of all those reasons. He's able to set himself better than the other big-armed QBs, and therefore this means that he consistently delivers the fastest ball.

That's right.

 

[Bostonian1962]

My memory is shakey, but I remember early in Brady's career, he was in one of those NFL QB competitions, and I believe came in second in arm strength, beating some QBs you wouldn't think he'd beat. He has a cannon, but because his touch and accuracy are so good, people forget about the arm strength.

If I can google a link, and find it, I'll post it here later.

 

[Snake Eyes]

Hard to blame Randy but I can't help but feel the old Randy Moss would have elevated and snatched that out of the air.

THAT Randy would have caught it if BB had worn the grey hoodie like he did all season

 

[TruthSeeker]

My memory is shakey, but I remember early in Brady's career, he was in one of those NFL QB competitions, and I believe came in second in arm strength, beating some QBs you wouldn't think he'd beat. He has a cannon, but because his touch and accuracy are so good, people forget about the arm strength.

If I can google a link, and find it, I'll post it here later.

Indeed, Tom Brady can fire the ball. Now if he can just stop overthrowing almost every deep route...

OK, in the overall scheme of things this is a nit. But I still see it every week.