How am I bullying you when you make a wild claim that isnt true and I ask you to back it up.
You misunderstand, I'm not talking about just me, I'm talking about your overall mode. For instance yesterday in the Briggs thread you wrote "Please explain how your thoughts don't match up with Rex's.". You do this quite a bit. To protect the board - or to cow opinion? That's the question.
You said he admitted the coaches tell him to do something and he loses interest and does what he wants. That is a fabrication, and it doesnt resemble he took too many chances and got disciplined.
No, it isn't a fabrication. Meri was making his weekly call to EEI and he brought it up himself. Much of the rest of the day was taken up on EEI with the various personalities discussing it (see below for more details on this famous pre season 2010 dustup). Somehow you are under the impression that if you don't know about it, it didn't happen. Hmmm... maybe if you had a helpful open attitude to ask the question it would be different. Like "that's interesting, could you point me to it?" No, instead in the prior thread you started with accusations right off the bat - you know - shoot first and ask questions later.... that is NOT conducive to open debate it it?
If you want to make up derogatory 'facts' about players you deserve to be called out, it isn't 'bullying' its asking you to back up something that sounds like you made up and are calling fact.
Oh yes sir.... sounds made up? Try doing some research, or maybe increase your media inputs. This one was right out there.
You compare value and when I ask what you mean by that, you ask me to define it? Meriwhehther played more often and played better, so I would consider him to have been more valuable.
Meri played more often, but on a per play basis I'd argue Chung was equal or better. AAV says 6 for Meri and 5 for Chung to get an objective measurement. Tackles say Chung, picks were equal.
I'm really not trying to give you a hard time but how can you bash me for asking you to back up what you say when Ive done it 3 times, 2 were clearly exaggeration and the 3rd you admit you are wrong on?
Yeah I didn't turn up a reference - yet, the first time I was right, this other time here I'm right. So we see that you are wrong on these two counts AND quick to question others. I'm not going to report every spec of news I get and where I got from real time - you have to decide if that's good enough for you, it won't gate my output.
Why would run support be pertinent to coverage skills? Its a different topic. I like Chung but he struggled a lot in coverage, and isnt close to Meriwhether as a cover guy.
It's pertinent to the overall value of the player. If Chung is busy making tackles but looks like he is out of place to the unwashed, but BB knows what he was doing - and endorses it, then what does coverage have to do with anything in that case? Let's not lose sight of the fact that Chung is going into his 3rd year and Meri his 5th, and that Chung had an injury that slowed his development, and gets paid less then Meri (less then half as much). On balance they are both good players, neither is great. Meri is better in coverage, but not in tackling.
Where are you getting that BB has a problem with Meriwhethers personality or problems? Please share how Chung laps him on that. I havent heard BB make negative comments about Meriwhether. Do you know of examples?
BB doesn't like things that take away from football - right? In any dimension it would appear. You expect BB to actually hold forth on this in detail?
Chung seems to be football all the time (which BB did make a comment about the other day (which I am sure you read), which was an endorsement of the players attitude and work ethic.
2010 Chung (excuse me, but from Wiki):
Chung became a full-time starter at safety in 2010. In Week 1, Chung set a career high with 16 tackles against the Cincinnati Bengals. In the second half of an October 4, 2010 Monday Night Football game against the Miami Dolphins in Week 4, Chung blocked both a punt and a field goal, which led to two Patriots touchdowns. He later returned an interception 51 yards for a touchdown. Chung added a 13-tackle game in Week 6 in an overtime win over the Baltimore Ravens, but left in the second quarter of the team's Week 7 game with a knee injury. After missing the next two games, Chung returned in Week 10 to record 11 tackles in a win over the Pittsburgh Steelers.
2010 Meri (Wiki):
Meanwhile Meri was benched in 2010 "Meriweather was not part of the Patriots base defense to begin the 2010 season, something which Meriweather described as a coaching decision
as a result of him freelancing in the defense during training camp.[7] After being replaced as a starter in Weeks 2 and 3 by James Sanders, Meriweather returned to his starting role in Week 4."
"In Week 6, Meriweather was penalized for an inadvertent helmet-to-helmet hit on Baltimore Ravens tight end Todd Heap. While Heap walked off the field and would later return, the hit, grouped together with other helmet-to-helmet hits on defenseless receivers from NFL players during the week, sparked controversy over the protection of players. The NFL took action the following Tuesday when they fined Meriweather $50,000 for the hit."
So, Chung has no black marks on his career - but the fake punt, and Meri has these plus his 2006 issues at school and his faux issue this off season. Guy seems like a magnet to me... and to other Pats fans.
My biggest issue here is you creating a negative attitude that has never been documented, attributing it to Meriwhether then saying he 'admitted to it'
There is a big difference between giving an opinion and making something up and calling it a fact.
As you mentioned yesterday, many Pats fans are sour on Meri, my voice isn't going to have much more of an effect, now is it? And I am entitled to my viewpoint, and entitled not to have to have a bibliography - what is this a term paper, a publication?
There is a burden of proof on the accuser - which you seem to ignore. No good grace, no friendliness to a fellow Pats fan.
