Would you be opposed to BB positioning 2 move up for Luck next year?

[Froob]

no

his first INT would bring out "BAD LUCK!" from all the Boston mediots

^ Yea and all the annoying titles they would create from his name.

 

[Deus Irae]

^ Yea and all the annoying titles they would create from his name.

Come on, it'd be fun. If the team wins on a QB run, it'll be "the Luck of the draw".

 

[billdog3484]

Carolina wouldn't make that move. Well, I guess it would be possible if they used the 1st rounder this year to go QB and thought there was a monster player available at 33. I don't know of anyone in the 33 range that's being looked at that way, though, do you?

i was just joking about that. although i guess it could be possible.

im sure there will be a lot of players many teams like after the conclusion of the first round.

my impression has always been that due to the gap in time between the first and second round, somebody inevitably is going to lose patience and make a really dumb trade. dont recall it happening last year, but i can see this happening sometime in the future.

 

[Seacoast Fan]

We're trying to win now. Give Brady every weapon you can. Don't spend valuable resources on the future when you could be helping Brady get his fourth.

Absolutely right. And his fifth and sixth, too.

 

[Deus Irae]

i was just joking about that. although i guess it could be possible.

im sure there will be a lot of players many teams like after the conclusion of the first round.

my impression has always been that due to the gap in time between the first and second round, somebody inevitably is going to lose patience and make a really dumb trade. dont recall it happening last year, but i can see this happening sometime in the future.

Carolina is a team that's traded 1s for 2s before. I just think your proposed trade would hinge on them grabbing a QB this year and still loving someone at the top of round 2, that's all. I wouldn't call it impossible. I'd just consider it highly unlikely, because this year's #33 would have to impress them more than a trade down from next year's #1, if that was their line of thinking.

 

[PATSYLICIOUS]

I wouldn't be opposed to drafting a QB in '12 or '13 to groom behind Brady and eventually replace him. But probably not with a 1st rounder unless it's someone BB REALLY likes. If someone slips like Aaron Rodgers did who wouldn't love to let him sit for 2-3 years and step right in when Brady's done.

But that's highly unlikely. Plus BB has already found 2 quality starters in the 6th and 7th rounds. One of which is going to go down as one of the best ever.

 

[Patriot Missile]

Unless Luck pulls a Locker next season he will be the first overral pick. He is the most nfl ready qb since Peyton Manning and will require Fort Knox to get him. I think he is a super star in the making.

The only way I see us having enough ammo to move into the 1 position would be to stockpile more draft picks and trade Brady for 2 #1s after the 2011 season. I don't think many of us are willing to do that. Including myself.

 

[MoLewisrocks]

Unless Luck pulls a Locker next season he will be the first overral pick. He is the most nfl ready qb since Peyton Manning and will require Fort Knox to get him. I think he is a super star in the making.

The only way I see us having enough ammo to move into the 1 position would be to stockpile more draft picks and trade Brady for 2 #1s after the 2011 season. I don't think many of us are willing to do that. Including myself.

Peyton Manning was 3-13 in his rookie season. He'd be hard pressed to survive that kind of start here in title town. He was 42-38 in his first 5 seasons in Indy. Heads would explode here... Maybe the cost of maintaining him had a little something to do with that. It took him 9 years to get to a Superbowl. Not sure that would fly here, either... Elevated expectations are a biatch...

 

[Lansdowne]

d%#*!@t...

Read the thread title "would I be opposed" and my answer was Yes, but then poll question itself asks if I want the Pats to move up, and I didn't catch that in time. I absolutely do not want the Pats to trade up for Luck. OP should word the poll question to be consistent with the thread title.

 

[Patriot Missile]

Peyton Manning was 3-13 in his rookie season. He'd be hard pressed to survive that kind of start here in title town. He was 42-38 in his first 5 seasons in Indy. Heads would explode here... Maybe the cost of maintaining him had a little something to do with that. It took him 9 years to get to a Superbowl. Not sure that would fly here, either... Elevated expectations are a biatch...

Cost of maintaining was backbreaking to the Colts. Imagine the team we would of had facing the Packers if Bledsoe's contract was friendly? 95 he signed the 7 yr 42 million dollar extension that made him the highest paid at the time. Then in 2000 he signed the 10 yr 103 million dollar extension that would of made him a free agent this year.

I wonder how much of that money he actually saw?

 

[VJCPatriot]

why? ten char

Exactly. Why would we trade our entire draft to get the #1 pick to draft a backup QB?

 

[patsfan-1982]

no... first round QB's are to big of a hit or miss for ever Aaron Rodgers there are 10 Alex Smith's no thanks

 

[PatsFanSince74]

It's been 14 years between Lombardi's for Greenbay...Hope they get more than one out of Rogers or the drafting high for the replacement and then letting him develop theory bridging any gaps goes a little askew... And people keep forgetting that the Young to Montana transition happened prior to FA and the salary cap making that scenario untenable. Not to mention Young had already played for 3 years as a pro miserably before being traded to SF for a 2nd and a 4th and was 31 by the time he took over as the starter following a locker room rift that resulted in Montana's being traded and he didn't win that one SB until he was...33. And it was the only one he won. Not exactly a seemless transition. They might have fared as well had they retained Montana for his last two seasons...

So, I think what you're saying, and I don't necessarily disagree with you, is that planning to draft or even have a QB who will take you to the SB or give you a consistently competitive team is really either very difficult at best or nearly impossible to do. That's because, at the QB position, you really can never know what you have until the guy shows up, plays games, wins games and then wins championships for you. The logic, then, is that you should build a "team" and have a system into which you effectively plug the QB who you feel gives you the best chance to win but around whom you don't plan several years of drafts or trades.

That might just be right. A Bradshaw, Brady, Staubach or Montana, et al, come along rarely. Even Peyton Manning and Marino, with just three SB appearances and one ring between them, never delivered the number of championships you'd think that players of their caliber could deliver. Brett only delivered one, as have Brees and Rogers, albeit at earlier stages of their careers. Rivers, Matty Ice, Flacco, McNabb and other highly skilled QB's have delivered none.

Interesting. All the more reason to treasure every season that Tommy has left at a high level if you are right, because it could be a long, long time before we have these days of such high off-season hopes again.

 

[satz]

Only problem

Instead of using the picks to add talent to make brady sucessfull i think this is one dumb plan to build a team for 3-4 yrs after brady.

if BB does this i think he should certainly be fired.

 

[Seels]

What's more puzzling than the thought in the first place is all the responses that have kept this on the first page. I wish this thread would just die off.

 

[JackBauer]

What's more puzzling than the thought is that ~23 people actually think this would be a good idea.

 

[Shelterdog]

Even if you got another teams 2012 first and it ended up being the first overall pick, you're probably better off trading Luck for a fortune rather than signing him to be on the bench for two-four years.

 

[PATRIOTSFANINPA]

Luck is a good athlete but I don't see what you see in him as a future pro

Sam Bradford was a better prospect than Luck is and Luck will not have as good a career as what I think Bradford will be.

 

[everlong]

What's more puzzling than the thought in the first place is all the responses that have kept this on the first page. I wish this thread would just die off.

The thread title is would you be opposed but the poll question is would you like to see. I read the thread title and answered as opposed. So the poll results aren't valid and I'm sure I'm not the only one who just answered off of the thread title.

 

[townes]

What's more puzzling than the thought is that ~23 people actually think this would be a good idea.

Let alone the fact that they don't seem to realize that it is virtually impossible to trade for the following year's No. 1 pick. So people are basically suggesting the Patriots trade away valuable picks this draft for a crapshoot it will turn into the 1st overall pick in the following draft, when they already have the best player in the league and he's under contract for years to come.

Brady will sign one more deal with NE and it will take him to retirement in about 5-6 years, start thinking about a replacement in 2016, not now.

Maybe they can trade both firsts this year for a kid who is in 8th grade right now?