Kraft wants to bring the Super Bowl to New England

[TriplecHamp]

Yeah a super Bowl in Foxboro in February. No thanks.

this, the superbowl has no business North of Atlanta.

 

[upstater1]

Dallas has had flights cancelled because of the influx of Global Warming. A 30% chance of rain or snow on Sunday.

Algore we beseech thee, deliver us from this glaciation and render unto us who are not worthy thy global warming.

Seriously, if you're going to bring politics into this, you're going down the wrong road.

 

[PatsDeb]

I imagine that will lead to NE NOT getting a Super Bowl. Driving from NY to East Rutherford is relativley hassle free...getting from Boston to Foxboro seems like a pain. I suppose they could have the festivities in Providence?

Same problems (with transportation/access to Foxboro), different direction.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

this, the superbowl has no business North of Atlanta.

Have you seen the weather in Dallas this week?

 

[TriplecHamp]

Have you seen the weather in Dallas this week?

I can only imagine what its like in Mass right now

 

[Wolfpack]

Gillette is one of a handful of NFL stadiums which I would say has almost zero chance of hosting a Super Bowl. Aside from the weather aspect, the infrastructure and logistics make it unreasonable to hold the game in Foxboro.

The lack of hotel rooms near the stadium really hurts the chance of a game being held there; that is a major consideration when any organization such as the NFL considers bids on hosting an event like the Super Bowl.

I'm not so sure I agree. There are plenty of hotels within 30-45 minutes of the stadium. And that's no further away than the hotels people in Dallas, Houston and Jacksonville had to put up with. (Actually, in Jacksonville, they literally brought in a cruise ship to dock in the city to crate more hotel rooms). The only difference is geography. In those locales, you can be 45 minutes away from the stadium but still be in the same city so it doesn't seem too far for those who aren't there. For Foxboro, you can be 45 minutes away and be in either Boston or Providence, Rhode Island.

Then there is the very well known traffic issue getting in and out of the stadium - which could conceivably cause a large number of people who paid a lot of money for tickets to miss a good portion of the game.

Anyone who buys a $2,000 ticket and then times things so close that they miss some of the game gets what they deserve. Besides if there was a Super Bowl in Foxboro, I doubt they would allow parking at the stadium. It would be all park & ride shuttles like they did in Jacksonville.

If one of the warm-weather traditional cities (Miami, New Orleans, Tampa) does not get the Super Bowl, it is usually given to a city/region that just kicked in some tax dollars on a new stadium. So the 'other cold weather stadiums are getting the SB' line doesn't really apply to bringing the game to Foxboro.

I just don't see it happening.

I think it is a long shot but Bob Kraft is an influential owner and if he racks up enough favors, it remains within the realm of possibility.

 

[PatsDeb]

I can only imagine what its like in Mass right now

Here in NH the stories on the news every night are about where the H-E-double-toothpick we are going to put all the new snow expected (4-6 inches tomorrow) since the "old" snow is over our heads! Seriously, I took my dog out in the backyard yesterday and fell over when I stepped somewhere and the snow went up to my thigh. Bring on the draft, if only because it will mean April is finally here! Those wimps in Dallas have nothing on us New Englanders!!

 

[FredFromDartmouth]

No no no no. It is idiotic and greedy to hold it in NY. New England would be worse. Super Bowl week is supposed to sunny and warm. It is party time; what could be more grim than NY in Feb.? I know: Foxboro in Feb. Ugh.

You would think that the cretinous owners who thought NY would be a great venue would wise up after a small taste in Dallas of what New England can server up.

The Dallas experiment has sort of ruined the at atmosphere of the SB. I wanna see Hawaiian shirts and drinks with unbrellas and binkinis with perky nipples NOT shivering guys in gray suits.

 

[Wolfpack]

No no no no. It is idiotic and greedy to hold it in NY. New England would be worse. Super Bowl week is supposed to sunny and warm. It is party time; what could be more grim than NY in Feb.? I know: Foxboro in Feb. Ugh.

You know I have to say I am getting pretty sick of the attitude that the NFL needs to cater to people who want a vacation in February when they schedule their Super Bowl.

The NFL shouldn't give the slightest damn what the journallists think, what Maxim Magazine thinks or what the playboy bunnies think when it comes to scheduling the Super Bowl. I love hearing all those people whine and cry when the game is in Indianapolis or Detroit. Don't like it? Then don't go.

The Dallas experiment has sort of ruined the at atmosphere of the SB. I wanna see Hawaiian shirts and drinks with unbrellas and binkinis with perky nipples NOT shivering guys in gray suits.

Call me crazy, but I only want to see those things during the Pro Bowl. For the Super Bowl, all I want to see is good football.

 

[FredFromDartmouth]

You know I have to say I am getting pretty sick of the attitude that the NFL needs to cater to people who want a vacation in February when they schedule their Super Bowl.

The NFL shouldn't give the slightest damn what the journallists think, what Maxim Magazine thinks or what the playboy bunnies think when it comes to scheduling the Super Bowl. I love hearing all those people whine and cry when the game is in Indianapolis or Detroit. Don't like it? Then don't go.
Call me crazy, but I only want to see those things during the Pro Bowl. For the Super Bowl, all I want to see is good football.

Bah; sounds clinical and business-like.. It is a game; it is supposed to be fun. Frostbite is not fun. Besides if I am going to blow all that money fro the game I might as well go some place warm and have a real vacation.

 

[Ron Sellers]

You know I have to say I am getting pretty sick of the attitude that the NFL needs to cater to people who want a vacation in February when they schedule their Super Bowl.

The NFL shouldn't give the slightest damn what the journallists think, what Maxim Magazine thinks or what the playboy bunnies think when it comes to scheduling the Super Bowl. I love hearing all those people whine and cry when the game is in Indianapolis or Detroit. Don't like it? Then don't go.
Call me crazy, but I only want to see those things during the Pro Bowl. For the Super Bowl, all I want to see is good football.

While we look at football as a game, the reality is the NFL in general, and specifically the event known as the Super Bowl is big business. The cities that put together a winning bid have to put a lot of money upfront to get to host the Super Bowl. There are a whole lot of closed doors deals and negotiations that go on, and they have to spend a lot of money on things ranging from overtime for law enforcement to discounted or free hotel rooms and meals, meeting rooms, transportation and more.

You and most other NFL fans may not care about that, but those facts play a big part in whether or not it would be worth it to hold the Super Bowl in a northern city. Put the game in warm weather location and people may $pend a full week or more there; put it in a northern city and those same people are going to spend as little time as possible there. That can make the difference between investing in hosting the event worthwhile and it being an economic disaster for the host city.

You say that you want to see "good football". Where do you think that is more likely to occur in February: in places like Miami, New Orleans and Tampa, or in places like Foxboro, Orchard Park and Green Bay?

By holding it in warm weather locales they actually are catering to football fans. Fans are more comfortable at those stadiums, they get to enjoy more pre-game activities; it's an overall better experience for them.

 

[Wolfpack]

Bah; sounds clinical and business-like.. It is a game; it is supposed to be fun. Frostbite is not fun. Besides if I am going to blow all that money fro the game I might as well go some place warm and have a real vacation.

Well then why don't we just move the football season to the summertime?

The game is supposed to be fun. There is no obligation on the part of the NFL to make sure the Maxim Super Bowl party is held in a nice, warm 76 degrees.

 

[Wolfpack]

While we look at football as a game, the reality is the NFL in general, and specifically the event known as the Super Bowl is big business. The cities that put together a winning bid have to put a lot of money upfront to get to host the Super Bowl. There are a whole lot of closed doors deals and negotiations that go on, and they have to spend a lot of money on things ranging from overtime for law enforcement to discounted or free hotel rooms and meals, meeting rooms, transportation and more.

Yes, that is all true. And the reason why cities are tripping over each other fighting to get a Super Bowl is because it is a huge boon to the local economy.

You and most other NFL fans may not care about that, but those facts play a big part in whether or not it would be worth it to hold the Super Bowl in a northern city. Put the game in warm weather location and people may $pend a full week or more there; put it in a northern city and those same people are going to spend as little time as possible there. That can make the difference between investing in hosting the event worthwhile and it being an economic disaster for the host city.

You seem not to realize that several Super Bowls have been held in cold weather cities. Detroit has had 2, Indianapolis is getting one, Dallas is no picnic in the winter as we are all learning, and Minnesota has had one. Even Jacksonville and Atlanta are no warm weather havens in the middle of winter.

You say that you want to see "good football". Where do you think that is more likely to occur in February: in places like Miami, New Orleans and Tampa, or in places like Foxboro, Orchard Park and Green Bay?

That's a no brainer. I would much rather see a game in Foxboro, Orchard Park and Green Bay. I love football and the elements.

When did this become the Miami Dolphins forum?

 

[Ron Sellers]

Yes, that is all true. And the reason why cities are tripping over each other fighting to get a Super Bowl is because it is a huge boon to the local economy.

Personally I think the whole "SB is a huge boon to the local economy" is a big lie. It benefits a select few, and is more than offset by higher costs paid by taxes. The NFL perpetuates the myth so they can get what they want. The biggest boon to the host city is the local politicians getting free face time on camera convincing their constituency that they did good - when in fact they spent a ton of money hosting the event that could have been spent elsewhere.

You seem not to realize that several Super Bowls have been held in cold weather cities. Detroit has had 2, Indianapolis is getting one, Dallas is no picnic in the winter as we are all learning, and Minnesota has had one. Even Jacksonville and Atlanta are no warm weather havens in the middle of winter.

Yes, I do realize the SB has been held in Detroit, Indy, MN, etc. From all accounts I have read the reaction was less than favorable and the amount spent by visitors was far less than in warmer locales - meaning it was more likely the local economy was hurt rather than helped by the event.

That's a no brainer. I would much rather see a game in Foxboro, Orchard Park and Green Bay. I love football and the elements.

You're certainly entitled to your opinion. Maybe the NFL should just start and end the season a full month or two later. To me the old concept of a football season finishing up just before it started snowing was great. Playing in the dead middle of winter when snow has been on the ground for eight or ten weeks does not make for a great game in my opinion.

When did this become the Miami Dolphins forum?

It's not. February in Florida is about 60° in the day, about 50° at night (which is when the game is played). That sounds like perfect football weather to me. If you've ever vacationed there during that time of year you would wish you waited another six weeks; it's not remotely close to beach weather when the SB is played.

 

[Water Boy]

Seriously, if you're going to bring politics into this, you're going down the wrong road.

Quote from Upstater1 i the Rodney Harrison interview thread:

I'm surprised that Rush didn't call Harrison a Communist for emphasizing teamwork on the Patriots.

 

[Triumph]

I'd settle for bringing New England to the Super Bowl.

Word Rico

You knew Kraft wanted a NE SB when he was so gung ho for the NYC one.

 

[FredFromDartmouth]

Word Rico

You knew Kraft wanted a NE SB when he was so gung ho for the NYC one.

I wonder if he is wising up now? I doubt it; there is too much money and prestige at stake. But these Eskimo Bowls are not good for fans. Who wants to go to NYC/NJ at this time of year; it is disgusting enough in the warm weather but downright hostile now.

The Ice Bowls threaten the whole mystique and aura of Super Bowls; it is supposed to be a week-long party and celebration not a teeth-chattering game of survival. Even for the living-room-bound viewers such as myself it is much more enjoyable watching the silliness in say New Orleans than gray-skies-gray-suits-black-snow of NYC.

 

[Haley]

I'd love to see a Super Bowl in the snow. It is football as it should be!

Dallas seems to be providing the snow for the event this year anyway.

Seriously, every state can have bad weather. People are glad to have the event in New Orleans and we just saw total devastation hit there. No one mentions that fans don't much care for flooding.

I don't really think it is fair to the those owners nor to the states that provide the domes that some can never be considered as a Super Bowl site for not really weather concerns, but temperature.

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

Kraft needs to get his head out of his ass on this futile SB in Foxboro quest and focus on 3 things...

1. A viable CBA agreement in the next 4 weeks

2. Getting son Jonathan or someone onto the NFL Competition Committee to counteract the Polian plots to change the game

3. Have a strong face to face talk with Goodell telling him to shut his mouth forever forward regarding ancient history of Spygate. No more 'candid' pre Super Bowl interviews that are damaging the Patriots brand.

Sucking up to Goodell for the never gonna happen event of a SB at Gillette is counterproductive.

 

[Triumph]

It used to be.

Gillette is too damn small to host a SB. And Foxboro is too damn far from Boston or Providence to make it realistic before you even consider Route 1 access.

Scottsdale AZ is 20 miles from Glendale, AZ.
Boston is 22 miles from Foxboro.

I was at SB42 and most of the action was in Scottsdale and Tempe. Glendale is called Gundale by the locals and is in the middle of nowhere. There was a pig farm near the stadium. There was also an outdoor mall across from the stadium but that was it.

If youve never been to Dallas its huge and actually 3 cities: Dallas, Fort Worth and Arlington.