Why do people want to replace BJGE???

[upstater1]

let's be serious. It was more than the little things that cause BB to give BJGE and Taylor the moajority of reps in preseason.

Maroney was immature, stupid, or on dope and BB realized he needed to see if he could survive and dump him for something before he had no value and he didn't want to waste more time on him.

Despite a mediocre preseason performance, BJGE was always a good soldier, worked hard, ran forward and didn't fumble, plus we still had Fred Taylor.

By the criterion established for beating someone out, my grandmother would have beat out Maroney in 2010, had she been the only other RB besides Taylor.

The team wanted to get rid of him period.

Dancing behind the lines, getting stuffed and putting your team in a 2nd down hole, fumbling the ball, that's not going to help win games.

I don't care if Maroney was a choir boy, the kid was never good at the intagibles. He was the Jeff George of running backs.

 

[DaBruinz]

Amazing stupidity, even for you. A guy who is a UDFA joins the team, and is supposed to take over for the first-round pick. Right. BenJarvus ousted Maroney, and everyone here but you knows he managed it because he is a more talented back than Maroney.

Your argument could be used against Brady to say, why didn't Brady replace Bledsoe immediately if he's so good. Stupidity!!!!!

Wrong. BJGE ousted Maroney, not because of talent, but because of hard work, dedication and willingness to be a team player. That is why BJGE ousted Maroney.

 

[Patspsycho]

 

[VJCPatriot]

Wrong. BJGE ousted Maroney, not because of talent, but because of hard work, dedication and willingness to be a team player. That is why BJGE ousted Maroney.

Correct. We gave Maroney a LOT of chances and BB just got sick of him. BJGE just puts his hard hat on every day and worked. Other teammates noticed. Morris himself said Benny deserved a chance to play. I really don't understand why people still stubbornly defend Maroney. The argument is more than over. The guy is sitting in jail for goodness' sake. Let's stop beating the dead horse.

 

[upstater1]

Wrong. BJGE ousted Maroney, not because of talent, but because of hard work, dedication and willingness to be a team player. That is why BJGE ousted Maroney.

Vision, picking holes, a head on your shoulders, that's talent. Tom Brady excels precisely because of these intangibles, his command and feel for the pocket. I'm not saying BenJ is at Brady's level or anywhere near that, but he possesses that vision that is about more than hard work or dedication.

 

[Deus Irae]

Correct. We gave Maroney a LOT of chances and BB just got sick of him. BJGE just puts his hard hat on every day and worked. Other teammates noticed. Morris himself said Benny deserved a chance to play. I really don't understand why people still stubbornly defend Maroney. The argument is more than over. The guy is sitting in jail for goodness' sake. Let's stop beating the dead horse.

People here like to confuse attempts at objectivity with hater/homer/bash/defend. The OBJECTIVE position is that Maroney was the team's RB1 in 2007. The OBJECTIVE position is that Maroney was the RB1 in 2008 until he got hurt. The OBJECTIVE position is that Maroney and Taylor were working out who was to be RB1 in 2009 until Taylor got hurt, and Maroney was the clear RB1 after that. The OBJECTIVE position is that something happened with Maroney to make him completely crap the bed this past year, and BJGE was one of the main beneficiaries of that decline coupled with the aging/injuries of Taylor.

 

[RayClay]

Dancing behind the lines, getting stuffed and putting your team in a 2nd down hole, fumbling the ball, that's not going to help win games.

I don't care if Maroney was a choir boy, the kid was never good at the intagibles. He was the Jeff George of running backs.

I don't know why, but the Pats decided to dump him by preseason 2010 IMO. They gave him a couple goal line TD chances, then put him into saran wrap until they could get an offer.

Everyone on the planet is happy with BJs work ethic, sty;e of running and production this year. I don't think anyone wants to replace him, ut players need to win their jobs every year, that troy Brown attitude.

In my opinion, There's no reason to hang on to taylor and Morris at all, and none for Faulk, except sentimentality, because woodhead is good in that role. Not better than Faulk, but add in age and rehab and I think it's a trun the page year at RB, with a couple solid citizens to anchor the RB corps of the future.

If Troy Brown and John Hannah played like they had to win their job every year, I don't see why players like Butler, BJGE, every lineman except Wilfork etc. shouldn't expect to compete for snaps.

 

[upstater1]

I don't know why, but the Pats decided to dump him by preseason 2010 IMO. They gave him a couple goal line TD chances, then put him into saran wrap until they could get an offer.

Everyone on the planet is happy with BJs work ethic, sty;e of running and production this year. I don't think anyone wants to replace him, ut players need to win their jobs every year, that troy Brown attitude.

In my opinion, There's no reason to hang on to taylor and Morris at all, and none for Faulk, except sentimentality, because woodhead is good in that role. Not better than Faulk, but add in age and rehab and I think it's a trun the page year at RB, with a couple solid citizens to anchor the RB corps of the future.

If Troy Brown and John Hannah played like they had to win their job every year, I don't see why players like Butler, BJGE, every lineman except Wilfork etc. shouldn't expect to compete for snaps.

I've been on board from the beginning with adding new running backs. I don't want to spend our top resources on a RB, however. RBs get injured. After BJGE, we obviously need more.

 

[DaBruinz]

You mean if Brady wasn't a beast putting up 30 with ease Bengie wouldn't get to pad stats, he is average and a good starter would have even higher numbers in this crazy 10 offense.

This is the sort of silliness I am referring to. His name isn't Bengie. It's BENNY, Lawfirm or BJGE. Next, BJGE was not "padding his stats" as you claim.

BenJarvus Green-Ellis Splits - New England Patriots - ESPN

Look at the part that says "BY QUARTER". You'll see that BJGE was putting up 4.5 YPC in the 1st and 2nd quarters of games through-out the year. His 4th quarter stats were only slightly better at 4.6 YPC. That kinda blows the whole "stat padding" theory out the window.

Also, if you muddle through the splits, you'll see that when the Pats were behind by 8 points or less, BJGE kicked it up a bit and was putting up 4.9 YPC.

Had there been a better run blocking Center and RG for most of the year, then BJGE would have even better numbers.

 

[DaBruinz]

Game 2 was when Brady threw 4 TDs and put up 45. Can we name one game where BJ was a big help that wasn't high scoring? He might have produced early but they were afraid of Brady who was on abosolute fire, his YPA was around 11 or so, I like that BJ goes north south and I love him if only for taking over for Maroney but I would drop him with quickness to be honest.

Game 2 of the season is what he was referring to. Not game 2 against the Jets.

Plain and simple. You're wrong in your evaluation of BJGE. And I proved that.

 

[billdog3484]

i dont think most people would say BJGE is not a good player. but i think hes not a player you can make a cornerstone of your offense

some of us are looking for a game-changing running back that will take pressure off brady. i think currently, as it stands, our passing attack takes pressure off the running game.

we want the opposite.

with that being said, i wouldnt be all that upset if BJGE was our starting RB next year, hes good

 

[fumbrunner]

In an attempt to bridge the gap between the two camps here, do you with the following statements?

1. BJGE proved this year that he could be a starter on this team and provide similar if not better production than any back since Corey Dillon.

2. An additional RB will be necessary with an aging Morris and Fred Taylor likely retiring.

3. RB may be a priority in the draft, but not more than a priority than OLB, DL, and OL.

4. A game changing RB would be a great luxury, but likely not a luxury that BB will invest a top draft pick in.

Anything there that people disagree with?

 

[upstater1]

In an attempt to bridge the gap between the two camps here, do you with the following statements?

1. BJGE proved this year that he could be a starter on this team and provide similar if not better production than any back since Corey Dillon.

2. An additional RB will be necessary with an aging Morris and Fred Taylor likely retiring.

3. RB may be a priority in the draft, but not more than a priority than OLB, DL, and OL.

4. A game changing RB would be a great luxury, but likely not a luxury that BB will invest a top draft pick in.

Anything there that people disagree with?

Not me. You've succinctly stated how I feel about it.