Patriots/Vikings wearing throwbacks this weekend.

[Nikolai]

Throwbacks ... red uniforms ... British redcoats

This.

We don't want the minutemen getting ideas there in the back of the end zone.

 

[PatRiot]

red, white,blue,silver whatever. Just give me W against mr. Wrangler.
Thx

 

[SVN]

considering who poorly we played with them 2 yrs ago, i dont like it..

 

[Gwedd]

This.

We don't want the minutemen getting ideas there in the back of the end zone.

Except that, a LOT of American Militia units wore red coats during the war. It wasn't until the last year or so that those coats disappeared. Only the Continental Army, or "Regulars" of Washington's army were required to wear blue coats. For everyone else, the men many times voted on their own uniforms as to style, color, facings, etc.

 

[patriotsdynasty12189]

Were screwed

 

[Froob]

How can you hate on pat the patriot?

 

[Brady2Welker]

Our throwbacks are beast. I believe our record with them last year was .500. Not too shabby, considering it was the home games we won.

 

[lurker1965]

Just a head's up for those who don't remember the announcement. The Patriots will be wearing the 70's/80's red throwback uniforms with Pat Patriot for this weekend's game against the Vikings. They will also be wearing them on Thanksgiving when they play the Lions.

In honor of the 1991 Patriots the will lose to the Vikings and Lions.

Oh, and the people who like the guy dropping a deuce on a football, you can join the 1990s now.

 

[lurker1965]

How can you hate on pat the patriot?

Easily. They lost more than won in the guy crapping - even counting the few good years and throw back times. How can YOU hate on Elvis?

Take off the nostalgia covered glasses.

Oh, at the time Grogan was hated. (Funny the power of Tony Eason.)

 

[Dufflebagz]

Easily. They lost more than won in the guy crapping - even counting the few good years and throw back times. How can YOU hate on Elvis?

Take off the nostalgia covered glasses.

Oh, at the time Grogan was hated. (Funny the power of Tony Eason.)

Simply looking at the jerseys, not what we have won and lost in them, the throwbacks are better

 

[Tunescribe]

Except that, a LOT of American Militia units wore red coats during the war.

I'm a bit of a history buff and I've NEVER heard of this, anywhere. Please cite a source. The Colonial Army regulars wore blue. Militias were locally organized and did not wear uniforms. In fact, it would've been to their disadvantage to wear anything that stood out like that and would've made it harder for them to blend back into the population following hit-and-run skirmishes.

If the Patriots wanted to be truly historically accurate a la the "minuteman" image, they would've gone with a tan/brown/white/black color scheme. But blue is a lot more accurate than red for jersey color, as the enemy was closely identified with their red-and-white garb.

 

[Gwedd]

I'm a bit of a history buff and I've NEVER heard of this, anywhere. Please cite a source. The Colonial Army regulars wore blue. Militias were locally organized and did not wear uniforms. In fact, it would've been to their disadvantage to wear anything that stood out like that and would've made it harder for them to blend back into the population following hit-and-run skirmishes.

If the Patriots wanted to be truly historically accurate a la the "minuteman" image, they would've gone with a tan/brown/white/black color scheme. But blue is a lot more accurate than red for jersey color, as the enemy was closely identified with their red-and-white garb.

Here ya go. Just peruse through the pages (be sure to scroll down them too) for a number of red-coated US regiments, as well as all sorts of other colors too.

http://www.baccus6mm.com/includes/howto/awi/intro_statefoot2_text.php

The Militia companies in each state selected their own clothing, but were also formed into regiments before being sent into State or Continental service and those regiments selected uniforms of a standard cut and color, if such were not already specified by the state regulations.

The only "regulated" blue coated regiments were those of the Continental Army, which was a very small part of Washington's army, being only those troops formed by order of the Continental Congress, and designed to form what would eventually be the Regular US Army after the war.

V/R

 

[Pewsterbaby]

Tunescibe, God love ya for your impeccable taste in music and all. And the fact that you run a mag about it blows my mind in ways only a few people are capable of grasping. You're a guy after my own heart more than you know, but...
Gez Tunescribe, don't cha know that nobody ever brought this up the entire time The Pats wore red between 1960- 1992? This Redcoat angle only surfaced in the last few years. I've been on board with the Pats since '79 at age 12 and never even thought of "Well, the British were actually The Redcoats, so it's dumb for The Pats to wear it".
Tunescribe,if the uniform was designed like a war jacket, then you'd have a point. You know, like this tee shirts that make it look like you're wearing a tuxedo shirt, tie, and jacket?
Tunes, it's a football jersey. It doesn't harken any similarities one way or the other.
The Pats throwback were the unis I fell in love with my team wearing. I had my little red Pat Patriot pajamas and sheets and everything. Bwah!

Now, go put on a nice 1972 Rick Wakeman sequined cape and get back to writin' 'bout Prog. lol. Or, at least a 1975 Gabriel bubble suit.
ima wear my nice rare 1985 Craig James #32 RED throwback tomorrow, k?

 

[SuperPatsFan]

Here ya go. Just peruse through the pages (be sure to scroll down them too) for a number of red-coated US regiments, as well as all sorts of other colors too.

http://www.baccus6mm.com/includes/howto/awi/intro_statefoot2_text.php

The Militia companies in each state selected their own clothing, but were also formed into regiments before being sent into State or Continental service and those regiments selected uniforms of a standard cut and color, if such were not already specified by the state regulations.

The only "regulated" blue coated regiments were those of the Continental Army, which was a very small part of Washington's army, being only those troops formed by order of the Continental Congress, and designed to form what would eventually be the Regular US Army after the war.

V/R

Very nice page. Thank you.

Scroll down for more on the red-coated First Connecticut Regiment

 

[spacecrime]

I love the throwbacks but 2x a season is a bit much. Once is plenty.

Go Pats!

NEVER! You really like the Flying Elvis? Not me! They should bring back the throwbacks permanently!!!!!!!

I like most throwbacks, especially the old Bucs, Lions and Chargers.

But not those Bronco unis they wore last year. Ugh.

 

[Tunescribe]

Tunescibe, God love ya for your impeccable taste in music and all. And the fact that you run a mag about it blows my mind in ways only a few people are capable of grasping. You're a guy after my own heart more than you know, but...
Gez Tunescribe, don't cha know that nobody ever brought this up the entire time The Pats wore red between 1960- 1992? This Redcoat angle only surfaced in the last few years. I've been on board with the Pats since '79 at age 12 and never even thought of "Well, the British were actually The Redcoats, so it's dumb for The Pats to wear it".
Tunescribe,if the uniform was designed like a war jacket, then you'd have a point. You know, like this tee shirts that make it look like you're wearing a tuxedo shirt, tie, and jacket?
Tunes, it's a football jersey. It doesn't harken any similarities one way or the other.
The Pats throwback were the unis I fell in love with my team wearing. I had my little red Pat Patriot pajamas and sheets and everything. Bwah!

Now, go put on a nice 1972 Rick Wakeman sequined cape and get back to writin' 'bout Prog. lol. Or, at least a 1975 Gabriel bubble suit.
ima wear my nice rare 1985 Craig James #32 RED throwback tomorrow, k?

Pewster, you're behind the times in both music and uni preference. At least Orthwein had the balls to make that fateful historical correction from red (Brits) to blue (Americans), correcting a 33-year-old faux pas and with it the bad mojo that had Pats fans turning "red" with embarrassment year after year. The throwbacks now look "slow and clunky" in person, which is oddly appropriate. I understand the childhood love and old-school nostalgia thing, but really, don't they now -- in retrospect -- remind you of the bumbling Pats and the futility they just couldn't shake? They do me. Those were the days of cheap ownership and losing two of every three, sometimes more. With the exception of a few bright spots, the Patriots were pretty much a second-rate franchise from their inception throughout the "red uni era," which didn't leave much to fondly look back upon.

As for prog: subscribe to the magazine (very affordable). You'll see how much things have progressed since the '70s -- just like the new millennium Patriots. :rocker:

 

[Froob]

Easily. They lost more than won in the guy crapping - even counting the few good years and throw back times. How can YOU hate on Elvis?

Take off the nostalgia covered glasses.

Oh, at the time Grogan was hated. (Funny the power of Tony Eason.)

I like both, I hope pats keep bringing out pat the patriot for 1-2 games a year. I think a flying elvis red uniform would be cool too. The silver alternates were lame.

 

[Wax Frog]

I like the red jerseys as well.

Same here - they always made me think of the enemy blood about to be shed (late 85/86 was my intro to the team and so shaped a positive uniform association in my mind)

I also still dream of seeing this helmet design, I'm strange that way. Besides, wouldn't this be part of a TRUE throwback?:

 

[Nikolai]

Here ya go. Just peruse through the pages (be sure to scroll down them too) for a number of red-coated US regiments, as well as all sorts of other colors too.

Neat page. I do realize that there were other colors flying about, but the commonly associated color, right or wrong, with the soldiers of the American revolution is definitely blue. Looking through the page you provided seems to affirm the reasons behind that.

State infantry*
7/82 majority red
30/82 majority blue (not counting the light blue)

*One uniform was equal parts red and blue and is counted for both

Continental
2/22 majority red
10/22 majority blue

In any event, I don't consider it a big deal because, obviously, historical accuracy isn't the point. I just like to joke about the Pats wearing red when there are minutemen about.

 

[Ryan]

I love the red uniforms. I don't see why their so-so past in those jerseys bothers people. They look good. And it's not like they absolutely sucked the entire time in those unis. They did get to a Super Bowl and have their fair share of good seasons.

I'd really like to see the Pats wear their 90's blues for a game or two also. The Pats have a great uniform history.