Stop blaming the coordinators

[D-Money]

Its inexplicable how a team moves the ball so well in the first half and then completly dissapears in the second half.This cant be all on the players if u asked me.I do agree that they quit on the run a little to early.This team was a terrible road team last year.We will see this year.

 

[Deus Irae]

Fine, that's the players or possibly the coaches if the scheme used to prepare for those plays was lousy

Either way, it's not because of 'adjustments', which is generally what people are griping about.

Why isn't that coaching? I think a Weiss would have had the nads to chew out Brady if he was targeting a covered receiver including Moss. Do you thin O'Brien does??

Because Brady decides who to throw the ball to in the second half of games, just as he decides who to throw the ball to in the first half of games.

 

[skinnydog]

Either way, it's not because of 'adjustments', which is generally what people are griping about.



Because Brady decides who to throw the ball to in the second half of games, just as he decides who to throw the ball to in the first half of games.

I don't see any adjustments. From what's been said the Jets made adjustments to tighten up coverage over the middle where they were getting burned in the 1st half. That was an obviousl adjustments. Where was our counter? Throw it up to Moss? Or did Brady say screw that adjustment I'm throwing it up to Moss. The point is, the OC should have anticipated that the Jets would adjust coverages and have a set of plays for that. Either they didn't or Brady ignores his coaches.

Most teams basically script the first few series in the first half. Are you saying the Pats don't have a primary receiver in their play calls and Brady just says go out for a pass and I'll figure it out?

 

[Deus Irae]

I don't see any adjustments. From what's been said the Jets made adjustments to tighten up coverage over the middle where they were getting burned in the 1st half. That was an obviousl adjustments. Where was our counter? Throw it up to Moss? Or did Brady say screw that adjustment I'm throwing it up to Moss. The point is, the OC should have anticipated that the Jets would adjust coverages and have a set of plays for that. Either they didn't or Brady ignores his coaches.

Most teams basically script the first few series in the first half. Are you saying the Pats don't have a primary receiver in their play calls and Brady just says go out for a pass and I'll figure it out?

I posted this earlier, but you must have missed it, so I'll cut and paste the entire post:

Bill Belichick, Patriots Head Coach on WEEI


Listening from about the 9 minute mark until just before the 11 minute mark would, perhaps, be enlightening for some...

I recommend the entire interview, but that portion is pretty much on point.

 

[D-Money]

U know Brady will bounce back against the bills and throw for 300 yards and maybe 4 TDs.I wanna see Brady and this coaching staff do that on the road against a quality team,The dolphins game might be a start.

 

[skinnydog]

I posted this earlier, but you must have missed it, so I'll cut and past the entire post:

Bill Belichick, Patriots Head Coach on WEEI


Listening from about the 9 minute mark until just before the 11 minute mark would, perhaps, be enlightening for some...

I recommend the entire interview, but that portion is pretty much on point.

Sorry and I missed, it. Could you summarize and BTW, I'm highly skeptical of Belichick revealing his true methodology to the Big Show hosts.

 

[Deus Irae]

Sorry and I missed, it. Could you summarize and BTW, I'm highly skeptical of Belichick revealing his true methodology to the Big Show hosts.

It's about 2 minutes of time if you only go to the portion I specified. Take the time for yourself, because I don't want to be accused of not repeating BB 100% verbatim in a summary. I've been down that path on this board before.

Nothing personal. If I find a transcript, I'll post it.

Edit: There's an automated transcript on the web site, but I can't vouch for its accuracy, and neither does WEEI.

 

[Brady'sButtBoy]

Stop putting some blame on the coaches like that idiot Tedy Bruschi did? Uh, OK...not.

 

[OldNEPatsFan]

What was wrong with the INTs? The first one was a 3rd and 13 and he was going to give Moss a chance to make a play, unfortunately he under threw Moss. The 2nd pick was just a unlucky bounce for the Pats, nothing you can really do.

The play calling was considerably different in the 1st half than in the 2nd half. They didnt run the ball at all in the 2nd half. Although it wasnt that effective, it still kept the defense honest and helped set up the pass. The Jets adjusted in the 2nd half by blitzing less and taking away the middle of the field, the Pats never adjusted to that. Brady doesnt call the plays. How can you completely throw him under the bus?

Brady does know how to audible doesn't he.

 

[skinnydog]

It's about 2 minutes of time if you only go to the portion I specified. Take the time for yourself, because I don't want to be accused of not repeating BB 100% verbatim in a summary. I've been down that path on this board before.

Nothing personal. If I find a transcript, I'll post it.

I understand. I listened and I heard the usual, we have to run better, throw better, block better stuff. He also said they hake adjustments from the outset and throughout the game. This is nothing new. I don't get it? As the game goes on the other team makes better adjustments and that is starkly in evidence inthe second half of games.

 

[captain stone]

This team has played two games, and was playing "eat the clock" in the first one after amassing a huge lead. To claim that it's got a CLEAR problem in the 2nd half of games is asinine.

No it isn't. Or have you forgotten 2009, or SB42? I wouldn't blame you if you did.

The co-ordinators might not be part of the problem we have here, but they are not part of the solution, either.

 

[The Dynasty]

Brady does know how to audible doesn't he.

Brady cant be both the OC and the QB at the same time. Brady is the one making the throws and decisions, but in the first half he made good throws and decisions. The play calling was where it should be. In the 2nd half the play calling was altered, thus Brady's play suffering

 

[PatsChamp88]

I'll just say this... It's getting harder each week to watch the second half of games and it's been a reoccurring theme

 

[OldNEPatsFan]

Brady cant be both the OC and the QB at the same time. Brady is the one making the throws and decisions, but in the first half he made good throws and decisions. The play calling was where it should be. In the 2nd half the play calling was altered, thus Brady's play suffering

Yes it was, Brady decided to try to force it to his dinner companion Moss.

 

[IcyPatriot]

Yes it was, Brady decided to try to force it to his dinner companion Moss.

Everybody needs to eat.

 

[Deus Irae]

No it isn't. Or have you forgotten 2009, or SB42? I wouldn't blame you if you did.

The co-ordinators might not be part of the problem we have here, but they are not part of the solution, either.

The 2009 team is not the 2010 team. The 2009 coordinators are not the 2010 coordinators. It's asinine to try tying those two teams together based upon just the first 2 games of this 2010 season.

And, whether the coordinators currently on staff and un-named are part of the overall problem, part of the overall solution, or neither, it wasn't the coordinators who failed in the Jets game. It was the players.

 

[makoute]

This team has played 2 games. That's it. I didn't make up anything. It's not my fault that you can't be bothered to see reason in this thread.

In those two games though, all the problems they had been experience the past couple of season showed up, almost exactly like they have been. Almost as if they learned nothing from their problems those past two season.

 

[Deus Irae]

In those two games though, all the problems they had been experience the past couple of season showed up, almost exactly like they have been. Almost as if they learned nothing from their problems those past two season.

I don't recall needing to kill clock with 31-3 leads as a problem from last year, so game one is out of the equation.

I do recall Brady locking on Moss and Welker last year, and I think we saw that on Sunday, with regards to Moss. That's on Brady, though, not the coordinators. I'm sure that plays were drawn up with the idea of attacking Cromartie once Revis went down, but that's a post-injury adjustment, not a halftime adjustment, and pretty much everyone here would probably have been in favor of such an action.

However, if Moss is covered, Brady is under no command to throw it to him anyway, at least to my knowledge, and I've never heard anyone say differently, be it online, on the radio, on television, in print or in person.

 

[blackglass3]

It was a team loss, I blame everyone.

 

[captain stone]

1) The 2009 team is not the 2010 team. The 2009 coordinators are not the 2010 coordinators. It's asinine to try tying those two teams together based upon just the first 2 games of this 2010 season.

2) And, whether the coordinators currently on staff and un-named are part of the overall problem, part of the overall solution, or neither, it wasn't the coordinators who failed in the Jets game. It was the players.

1) O'Brien was here last year. And while we don't have Dean Pees to kick around any more, we still have Bill, Pepper & Matt Patricia.

2) The players did indeed fail yesterday; but so did the coaches, starting with Bill - again.