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These choices would make me a happy camper.

21 Odrick (trade 47 and 53)
22 Hughes (alternative is the OLB of Belichick's choice; prehaps Kindle, Graham or Griffen)
44 Damaryious Thomas
119 Moeaki

And then we have our seven picks in the sixth and seventh to find what we can.

Another idea: We might be better off with Wilson as one of our two defensive picks.
 
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I think Wilson will be gone by our picks. I like McCourtey, though, he may be gone too but his (lack of) ball skills may push him down. Solid CB and an excellent ST player.

Anyway - solid picks on your part, I like Odrick, I like Thomas (especially that late). I have a feeling Bill will pass on Hughes' lack of height and take Sapp but, like you, OLBoBBC (OLB of Bill Belichick's Choice) works for me at that spot. Moeaki doesn't excite me, I'd be OK with him but would prefer McCoy if he makes it there.
 
I also prefer McCoy, but I think that he'll be long gone at 119.

I think Wilson will be gone by our picks. I like McCourtey, though, he may be gone too but his (lack of) ball skills may push him down. Solid CB and an excellent ST player.

Anyway - solid picks on your part, I like Odrick, I like Thomas (especially that late). I have a feeling Bill will pass on Hughes' lack of height and take Sapp but, like you, OLBoBBC (OLB of Bill Belichick's Choice) works for me at that spot. Moeaki doesn't excite me, I'd be OK with him but would prefer McCoy if he makes it there.
 
These choices would make me a happy camper.

21 Odrick (trade 47 and 53)
22 Hughes (alternative is the OLB of Belichick's choice; prehaps Kindle, Graham or Griffen)
44 Thomas
119 Moeaki

And then we have our seven picks in the sixth and seventh to find what we can.

Another idea: We might be better off with Wilson as one of our two defensive picks.

If Odrick slides to 21, he'll likely get to 22 so why trade two good picks in 47 & 53?

My five at this point:
22. Odrick, DE
44. Sapp, OLB
47. Pitta, TE
53. Hardesty, RB

119. E.Sanders, WR - I doubt he'll be available here, may require trade up.
 
These choices would make me a happy camper.

21 Odrick (trade 47 and 53)
22 Hughes (alternative is the OLB of Belichick's choice; prehaps Kindle, Graham or Griffen)
44 Thomas
119 Moeaki

And then we have our seven picks in the sixth and seventh to find what we can.

Another idea: We might be better off with Wilson as one of our two defensive picks.

Is Odrick really worth the opportunity to draft other two players? Does he really project to a 3-4 DE?
 
21 Odrick (trade 47 and 53)
22 Hughes (alternative is the OLB of Belichick's choice; prehaps Kindle, Graham or Griffen)
44 Thomas
119 Moeaki

Is that Damaryius Thomas or Cam Thomas or...? (I think there's a real chance that Damaryius Thomas will be the first WR off the board and not available close to #44. That makes for some interesting decisions, since there's a lack of flanker types in this draft.)
 
Is that Damaryius Thomas or Cam Thomas or...? (I think there's a real chance that Damaryius Thomas will be the first WR off the board and not available close to #44. That makes for some interesting decisions, since there's a lack of flanker types in this draft.)

This just isn't a draft you trade up into the 20's. There are first round grades into the 40's. In fact it's a draft where if you're top targets are off the board you start the march downward incrementally and add what you can in the 2nd, 3rd and even 4th. I bet Bill is still hoping he can parlay Tebow mania into a couple of picks, although it seems to be loosing (hyped up) steam as the draft approaches.
 
Is that Damaryius Thomas or Cam Thomas or...? (I think there's a real chance that Damaryius Thomas will be the first WR off the board and not available close to #44. That makes for some interesting decisions, since there's a lack of flanker types in this draft.)

So you think that a guy that played in a non traditional offense and has been able to work out due to injury, is going to be the first WR off the board?
 
So you think that a guy that played in a non traditional offense and has been able to work out due to injury, is going to be the first WR off the board?

I think it's possible, because this year the battle for 1st WR off the board is looking like a war of attrition.
 
So you think that a guy that played in a non traditional offense and has been able to work out due to injury, is going to be the first WR off the board?

Yeah...I have a real hard time figuring out Thomas. It seems every play he faked a block, then when the support moved to play the rollout, he got one-on-one coverage to run by. I know he's big and fast and can catch. I don't know if he can get open or understand the art of route running.
 
Yeah...I have a real hard time figuring out Thomas. It seems every play he faked a block, then when the support moved to play the rollout, he got one-on-one coverage to run by. I know he's big and fast and can catch. I don't know if he can get open or understand the art of route running.

Just to be clear, I agree with you both. I just think that the weakness at the top of this draft class will get Thomas taken above #44, and that the Pats would be better off trying to convert that pick into two lower-selected receivers -- from what's available, probably an experienced receiver who's small and quick (e.g. Sanders, Roberts), and a bigger project type (Easley, Webb, Long).
 
Damaryious Thomas.

I agree that he may be long gone. But then again, many mocks ahve him still there at 44, where I think that he is a no-brainer.

Is that Damaryius Thomas or Cam Thomas or...? (I think there's a real chance that Damaryius Thomas will be the first WR off the board and not available close to #44. That makes for some interesting decisions, since there's a lack of flanker types in this draft.)
 
Just to be clear, I agree with you both. I just think that the weakness at the top of this draft class will get Thomas taken above #44, and that the Pats would be better off trying to convert that pick into two lower-selected receivers -- from what's available, probably an experienced receiver who's small and quick (e.g. Sanders, Roberts), and a bigger project type (Easley, Webb, Long).

Please don't forget Taylor Price, WR, 6'1", 205lbs, 4.4 forty

Taylor Price, Ohio, NFL Draft - CBSSports.com - NFLDraftScout.com

"A vastly underrated talent with exceptional athletic ability, Price toiled for a team that never established a passing attack, yet professional scouts hold him in high esteem."
 
Right now I think I'd rather have Carrington and the 50th best player in this draft than Odrick. Not that I don't like Odrick, just the value of the 50th best player greater than the difference in value of Carrington and Odrick.
 
I like Carrington more than most. He is not ready to contribute. He has lots to learn and pounds to add.

Odrick is ready now.

However, it probably matter not since he will likely be gone by 22.

Right now I think I'd rather have Carrington and the 50th best player in this draft than Odrick. Not that I don't like Odrick, just the value of the 50th best player greater than the difference in value of Carrington and Odrick.
 
Rather than trade up, I'd hope for Odrick to fall to 44 or take Tyson Alaulu in the 2nd if he doesn't.
 
Hope is not a plan. Given how 3-4 teams pick in the bottom of the 1st and early 2nd 9or might trade in), I don't expect either player to be available at 44.

Rather than trade up, I'd hope for Odrick to fall to 44 or take Tyson Alaulu in the 2nd if he doesn't.
 
I like Carrington more than most. He is not ready to contribute. He has lots to learn and pounds to add.

Odrick is ready now.

However, it probably matter not since he will likely be gone by 22.

We have guys that can hold the point, Carrington can play in rotation. I wouldn't forsake the 50th pick solely for what Odrick can produce as a rookie.
 
Please don't forget Taylor Price, WR, 6'1", 205lbs, 4.4 forty

Price is a tough one to judge, since he played in such a messed-up offense. Good size, great straight-ahead athlete, reportedly gives great effort. But I'm not sold on his hands and cuts.
 
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