Maroney's benching

[PatsWickedPissah]

I agree. I don't think there are many RBs who could have made that block.

I don't know if the issue is Koppen's pre-snap reads/adjustments, or what. But something seemed to be off with the interior pass protection, as it broke down again (as it has intermittently all year long).

It all started with the Gints game. The better DCs with the more talented defenses have been attacking up the middle, promarily right since that awfull February 2 years ago. With Brady's franchise value, this really needs to be fixed.

 

[RobertWeathers]

nobody would trade for him

I disagree. Maroney has value as a backup/fill-in starter who is cheap.

 

[aluminum seats]

3 fumbles at the goalline, not to mention the other ones he's had. He doesnt do enough good things for us to forget about it. They wouldn't be having a "hissy fit" over a fumble.

Disagree. Objectively, the way Maroney has been used is strange. He showed flashes early in his career but was hampered by a couple of injuries and a frustrating tendency to dance behind the line and not be decisive in his cuts.

This season, he made great strides in staying on the field and being more decisive in his reads and cuts. And yes, he fumbled a couple of times. It's REALLY strange that resulted in his benching. You know that guy, Kevin Faulk, they turned to yesterday because he seemed like a "safe" option? Used to fumble a lot.

 

[crowell33]

I'd rather see Maroney, since he's our best RB.

It appears the coach of the New England Patriots disagrees with you.

 

[tanked_as_usual]

I disagree. Maroney has value as a backup/fill-in starter who is cheap.

nobody trades for RBs who are regularly getting benched.......the pats would be more likely to get something for BJGE than maroney

 

[JackBauer]

Calling B.S. all-over-the-place on this one. Kevin Faulk or Sammy Morris would have made that block and that's all you really need to know--that's why they were in the game and Maroney wasn't.

Maroney was a split second too slow in reading that blitz. Lewis came in like gangbusters but most NFL RBs would have gotten over more quickly and at least given Brady a chance to avoid a clean sack or throw it away.

RB is an urgent need on this team. It's plain as day and if BB doesn't see it and pick one up in the draft, then he has truly lost it. No balance in the offense=epic fail. 2007 was an aberration. :spygate:

Are you high? Sammy Morris is not good in pass protection. Ask Tom about that one.

Faulk might have picked up the block, only because he's elite in that facet of the game.

 

[BrownNServe]

the pats would be more likely to get something for BJGE than maroney

you're joking.... right?

 

[RobertWeathers]

Disagree. Objectively, the way Maroney has been used is strange. He showed flashes early in his career but was hampered by a couple of injuries and a frustrating tendency to dance behind the line and not be decisive in his cuts.

This season, he made great strides in staying on the field and being more decisive in his reads and cuts. And yes, he fumbled a couple of times. It's REALLY strange that resulted in his benching. You know that guy, Kevin Faulk, they turned to yesterday because he seemed like a "safe" option? Used to fumble a lot.

Faulk fixed his ball security issues by the 01 season- his 3rd in the league.

 

[JackBauer]

It appears the coach of the New England Patriots disagrees with you.

The coach of the New England Patriots also saw it fit to trade away our best defensive lineman and instead rely on an overpaid scrub who got destroyed, yet again, in the running game yesterday.

Your appeal to authority notwithstanding, you might want to re-think your argument.

 

[JackBauer]

Faulk fixed his ball security issues by the 01 season- his 3rd in the league.

And Maroney has never had fumbling issues before this season.

What's your point?

 

[A.C Vegas]

I would love to know how many RB's can block a full speed, untouched Ray Lewis who is 1 step away from the QB and they are 3 steps away from him

 

[JackBauer]

nobody trades for RBs who are regularly getting benched.......the pats would be more likely to get something for BJGE than maroney

Just when you thought this place couldn't get any worse.

 

[RobertWeathers]

And Maroney has never had fumbling issues before this season.

What's your point?

My point is that Faulk fixed his ball security issues in his 3rd season has shown zero signs of regression.

Up until the middle of this season-Maroney's 4th with the team, he suddenly now has a ball-security issue.

 

[JackBauer]

My point is that Faulk fixed his ball security issues in his 3rd season has shown zero signs of regression.

Up until the middle of this season-Maroney's 4th with the team, he suddenly now has a ball-security issue.

Which makes it more likely to be a fluke (or his technique needs to be adjusted), rather than anything chronic or regressive.

 

[JMarr]

I would love to know how many RB's can block a full speed, untouched Ray Lewis who is 1 step away from the QB and they are 3 steps away from him

Umm, like I said, by recognizing the blitz before Lewis is already past you and in the QB's face.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Which makes it more likely to be a fluke (or his technique needs to be adjusted), rather than anything chronic or regressive.

Maybe yes. Maybe no. Could be an injury to the ribs or arm that the team is hiding. Could be a fundementals issue. Could be a mental issue. Who knows.

All I know is that BB was not happy with him after he fumbled on the goaline vs JAX.

 

[Deus Irae]

Maybe yes. Maybe no. Could be an injury to the ribs or arm that the team is hiding. Could be a fundementals issue. Could be a mental issue. Who knows.

All I know is that BB was not happy with him after he fumbled on the goaline vs JAX.

But do we bench BB for his terrible decisions all throughout 2009?

 

[aluminum seats]

Maybe yes. Maybe no. Could be an injury to the ribs or arm that the team is hiding. Could be a fundementals issue. Could be a mental issue. Who knows.

All I know is that BB was not happy with him after he fumbled on the goaline vs JAX.

Yes, it's evident that Belichick essentially benched Maroney at that point. My point is, it's hard to understand objectively--Maroney's fumbles were not bench-worthy. And of course he started yesterday.

Not to turn this into Belichick thread, but the guy simply didn't have a great year this year--he needs another brain, be it a coordinator, front office, whatever--to bounce stuff off of. Hard for one guy to do everything.

 

[MoLewisrocks]

My point is that Faulk fixed his ball security issues in his 3rd season has shown zero signs of regression.

Up until the middle of this season-Maroney's 4th with the team, he suddenly now has a ball-security issue.

Not quite. He Faulk started the snowball rolling downhill that was Denver in 2005. Since then, his 6th season in the league, he's remained on the wagon. But again it's dependent on touches because that was what happened in 2005 when he was forced to carry the load Dillon couldn't down the stretch. Never should have been in that situation. Ditto Maroney. He's not the bowling ball, he's the gazelle. Faulk had 11 fumbles in his first 3 seasons, he had 10 in his next 4, he's had 4 in his last 4. And that's in limited touches and it's not being asked to tote the rock as a starting RB.

 

[Xplicit]

Which makes it more likely to be a fluke (or his technique needs to be adjusted), rather than anything chronic or regressive.

A "fluke" ?

That's just embarrassing, you're stretching pretty far now.