Signature in the Cell: DNA and the Evidence for Intelligent Design

[Mista Kool]

If anyone's interested in Intelligent Design, I'd highly recommend Stephen C. Meyer's Signature in the Cell: DNA and the Evidence for Intelligent Design. The book was just named as one of Amazon.com's top-10 best sellers of 2009 in the category of science and is recieving five-star rating after five-star rating. From Amazon:

American Spectator
Signature in the Cell is a defining work in the discussion of life's origins . . . the powerful case Meyer presents cannot be ignored in any honest debate. . . [T]his book is an engaging, eye-opening, and often eye-popping read

Product Description
One hundred fifty years ago, Charles Darwin revolutionized biology, but did he refute intelligent design (ID)? In Signature in the Cell, Stephen Meyer argues that he did not.

Much confusion surrounds the theory of intelligent design. Frequently misrepresented by the media, politicians, and local school boards, intelligent design can be defended on purely scientific grounds in accordance with the same rigorous methods that apply to every proposed origin-of-life theory.

Signature in the Cell is the first book to make a comprehensive case for intelligent design based upon DNA. Meyer embarks on an odyssey of discovery as he investigates current evolutionary theories and the evidence that ultimately led him to affirm intelligent design. Clearly defining what ID is and is not, Meyer shows that the argument for intelligent design is not based on ignorance or "giving up on science," but instead upon our growing scientific knowledge of the information stored in the cell.

A leading proponent of intelligent design in the scientific community, Meyer presents a compelling case that will generate heated debate, command attention, and find new adherents from leading scientists around the world.

Here's the website for the book: Signature in the Cell by Stephen C. Meyer

The author, Cambridge graduate Stephen C. Meyer, is nothing short of amazing. Dawkins and many other well-known supporters of Victorian era junk science (Darwinism) are absolutely terrified of this guy and most refuse to debate him.

Watch/Listen to any of the following and you'll not only have a much better understanding of the greatest scientific revolution of our time (if not all time), but you'll also see just how brilliant the man is and why he's so feared by so many:

Debate With Peter Ward at Talk of the Times (TVW)[/b])
The rematch, a debate with Meyer and Ward addressing each other’s arguments for intelligent design and evolution (or not, respectively). Reporters and columnists especially should listen to this, as a real debate by scientists on the science of Darwinian evolution is almost as rare as life in the universe.

(Meyer thoroughly explains what I.D. is beginning at around the eight-minute mark of the previous video)

Debate With Michael Ruse on Ben Wattenberg’s Think Tank (PBS)
Think Tank Part 1)
Think Tank Part 2)
Ben Wattenberg moderates this matchup with Darwinist Michael Ruse, who was also featured in the movie Expelled. This debate gets into the philosophical implications of design and Darwinism and the distinctions between the scientific evidence and the implications for both theories.

Debate with Michael Shermer on Faith Under Fire
Dr. Stephen Meyer on Faith Under Fire)
Dr. Meyer addresses Michael Shermer’s objections to intelligent design, including “Who designed the designer?” Also features their discussion on the existence of design in nature.

Here he is eviscerating 'skeptic' Michael Shermer again (this guy's Meyer's personal whipping boy).

Chris Mooney gets perhaps the worst intellectual beat-down yet. To his credit he seemed to realize he was in way over his head and decided to play suck-up.

The Signature website also has links to many other of Meyer's debates/presentations. I'd also recommend anything from Jonathan Wells, David Berlinski and Behe's literature is some of the most in-depth science you'll read.

Either way, if you going to learn of I.D., make sure you learn about it from its proponents and not it's dishonest opponents.

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[DisgruntledTunaFan]

Do NOT be deceived! This "strong delusion" that Paul preached about in 2nd The 2 is edging closer and closer...

Seriously, if you want to believe in intelligent design, then you might as well say the book of Genesis as well as the whole bible is a big lie. Do you really want to risk going spending eternity in that Lake of Fire?

When this One World Antichrist Leader comes onto the national stage(it will more likely be Maitreya), he could very well spew forth this propaganda.

2nd The 2

1Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord ************, and by our gathering together unto him,

2That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.

3Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

4Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

5Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?

6And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.

7For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.

8And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

9Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

10And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

11And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

12That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

13But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:

14Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord ************.

15Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.

16Now our Lord ************ himself, and God, even our Father, which hath loved us, and hath given us everlasting consolation and good hope through grace,

17Comfort your hearts, and stablish you in every good word and work.

 

[DisgruntledTunaFan]

BTW - I was shocked that Bush Jr and some of these ELITE evangelists like Falwell, Robertson, et al endorsed this.

Bush Jr was NO born again Christian, nor an ally of the church --> BushRevealed.com - The Truth About President Bush Without Reservation

Evangelicals Outraged Over Bush’s Views That Non-Christians Can Get to Heaven and Bible Not Literally True JONATHAN TURLEY

 

[Satchboogie3]

Tuna, do us all the favor and leave this forum.

Intelligent Design is not only a terrible idea, it's also not even science. It's a joke. The reason scientists don't debate ID is because there IS NO DEBATE. Giving in to creationists and debating them would make it seem like their is something to debate, thus they won't do that. ALL the evidence is out there, it's the creationists who use misinformation and flat out lies to attempt to convince people. The whole reason why they came up with the title "Intelligent Design" is so they could teach it along evolution as "science". It isn't, it's the same thing as creationism, they just changed the name.

I have no doubt that you are extremely uneducated and have never actually studied biology/evolution. You have NO RIGHT speaking with authority about something you know nothing about. Do us all the favor and pick up a damned book.

 

[gomezcat]

Tuna, do us all the favor and leave this forum.

Intelligent Design is not only a terrible idea, it's also not even science. It's a joke. The reason scientists don't debate ID is because there IS NO DEBATE. Giving in to creationists and debating them would make it seem like their is something to debate, thus they won't do that. ALL the evidence is out there, it's the creationists who use misinformation and flat out lies to attempt to convince people. The whole reason why they came up with the title "Intelligent Design" is so they could teach it along evolution as "science". It isn't, it's the same thing as creationism, they just changed the name.

I have no doubt that you are extremely uneducated and have never actually studied biology/evolution. You have NO RIGHT speaking with authority about something you know nothing about. Do us all the favor and pick up a damned book.

Please cut out the personal attacks. You may not agree with his opinions (and I certainly don't) but he is entitled to state them.

 

[Satchboogie3]

Please cut out the personal attacks. You may not agree with his opinions (and I certainly don't) but he is entitled to state them.

It just clogs this message board, the last 6+ topics have been nonsense posted by this guy.

Anywho, evolution isn't an "opinion", it's a scientific fact.

 

[gomezcat]

It just clogs this message board, the last 6+ topics have been nonsense posted by this guy.

Anywho, evolution isn't an "opinion", it's a scientific fact.

You're welcome to start your own threads. If they're related to matters about religion in the broadest sense, they're welcome. I take the view that if a thread is a)on topic and b) doesn't contravene board policy, then it stays. Do I agree with a lot of what is written on here? No, I'm a liberal atheist from the UK, so it's fair to say I disagree with quite a bit of stuff but that isn't the point.

 

[Harry Boy]

Yes Evolution Is A Reality and GOD created it.

In the beginning God Created The Heavens And The Earth, in the BEGINNING, trillions upon trillions of years ago.

Who or what created the Big Bang, if it was a Cosmic gas Expolsion who created the Cosmic Gas.

The Beginning didn't "just happen" God Created it, the only thing I can't figure out is who the hell created God...

Is there something or somebody more powerful than God, if so, who the hell created that......

ON AND ON IT GOES

 

[Rossmci90]

Yes Evolution Is A Reality and GOD created it.

In the beginning God Created The Heavens And The Earth, in the BEGINNING, trillions upon trillions of years ago.

Who or what created the Big Bang, if it was a Cosmic gas Expolsion who created the Cosmic Gas.

The Beginning didn't "just happen" God Created it, the only thing I can't figure out is who the hell created God...

Is there something or somebody more powerful than God, if so, who the hell created that......

ON AND ON IT GOES

Firstly, trillions upon trillions? The Universe is no more than 15 billion years old.

Your last comment is a contradiction of what you earlier. Im assuming you don't believe in ID (and you would be right to do so) but then you go on to say that there needs to be a God, hence saying ID is true. Why do we need there to be a God? God serves no purpose to mankind except to control the masses with medieval mythology and ideals that have no place in a modern world with modern education.

 

[Harry Boy]

Firstly, trillions upon trillions? The Universe is no more than 15 billion years old.

Your last comment is a contradiction of what you earlier. Im assuming you don't believe in ID (and you would be right to do so) but then you go on to say that there needs to be a God, hence saying ID is true. Why do we need there to be a God? God serves no purpose to mankind except to control the masses with medieval mythology and ideals that have no place in a modern world with modern education.

I get confused wondering where it all started (how did the very first thing happen?) no human being today can explain it. I used trillions upon trillions to try and imagine "the beginning" 15 billion years ago I wonder what happened, whatever made that happen I wonder what made that happen, then I wonder what made that happen, I keep wondering what made that happen......................

I have to lie down now.

 

[patsfan13]

Firstly, trillions upon trillions? The Universe is no more than 15 billion years old.

Your last comment is a contradiction of what you earlier. Im assuming you don't believe in ID (and you would be right to do so) but then you go on to say that there needs to be a God, hence saying ID is true. Why do we need there to be a God? God serves no purpose to mankind except to control the masses with medieval mythology and ideals that have no place in a modern world with modern education.

If our universe is actually a small component of a multiverse as some string theory interpretations suggest Harry's estimate may be pretty good, the local space time we can see appears to be in that range of 15B years.

 

[Harry Boy]

We keep hearing these things, "the universe this, the universe that" they tell us how old the universe is, they tell us about new discoveries in the universe, they tell us about new stars, new planets, gas explosions, this is what I wish they would try to explain, WHAT OR WHO CREATED THE UNIVERSE...........

 

[Rossmci90]

We keep hearing these things, "the universe this, the universe that" they tell us how old the universe is, they tell us about new discoveries in the universe, they tell us about new stars, new planets, gas explosions, this is what I wish they would try to explain, WHAT OR WHO CREATED THE UNIVERSE...........

That's what the LHC is attempting to find out. Its not working yet but they are trying like you want.

 

[Harry Boy]

That's what the LHC is attempting to find out. Its not working yet but they are trying like you want.

I don't think they'll find out unless God wants them too.............

 

[Nikolai]

Anywho, evolution isn't an "opinion", it's a scientific fact.

"Evolution" is both a theory and a fact. Evolution on a small scale has been observed and confirmed as fact, but the evolution as the developmental method for the planet's species over the last billion years or what not is a theory, however sound.

Just a niggle. A more astute "anti-evolution" person would seize on that strawman.

 

[Harry Boy]

Evolution is a fact and this is how it started, gather your children around and read this to them.

In the beginning God created "himself" and he said "this is good" then he said "i have to create something big", God then created The Universe then he rested, it was Sunday, Monday morning God decided he wanted to create something that moved & crawled, God then created two Bugs with eyes, ears and mouth, they moved, God said "this is good" God then created two worms, they crawled, God said "this is good" God then threw the bugs and the worms out into The Universe and yelled out "GO THEE UNTO THE PLACE I HAVE CREATED THERE YE SHALL EVOLVE AND MULTIPLY"

It wasn't Adam & Eve, it was two bugs and two worms, they Evolved as God commanded them to do the results of the Evolution are what you see today, God only knows what we will look like in another trillion years..........

Remember,
God Created The Heavens And The Earth

I HAVE SPOKEN

 

[Synovia]

"Evolution" is both a theory and a fact. Evolution on a small scale has been observed and confirmed as fact, but the evolution as the developmental method for the planet's species over the last billion years or what not is a theory, however sound.

Just a niggle. A more astute "anti-evolution" person would seize on that strawman.

Theres more evidence to the theory of evolution than their is to the theory of gravity.

 

[363839]

Theres more evidence to the theory of evolution than their is to the theory of gravity.

I always did have a problem with that mass=gravitational pull thing.

 

[Nikolai]

Theres more evidence to the theory of evolution than their is to the theory of gravity.

Ok? I'm missing the point of this post.

 

[patsfan13]

Theres more evidence to the theory of evolution than their is to the theory of gravity.

Gravity is defined by a law it is not a theory.

Einstein and Newton say hi.