OT: Jacksonville crowd

[BAM!]

Your right about Beach Blvd, but that's becuase the entire road is a Commercvially zoned area. But right behind all those shops and such you see are access roads to housing areas.

Just bring up Google Maps.

I live between Beach, and Atlantic off San Pablo. Which is 99% housing with 1 apartment complex.

Seriously though, there are TONS more houses than apartments. Really. Even on the beaches, your right that on A1a and first street, but thats the BEach and prime real estate. Take a trip down Florida Ave, or Penman, and its the beaches area but 100% housing neighborhoods.

Also with all the community schools, I still don't think ive ever gone anywhere and felt "Oh man look at all these college kids!!"

Compared to where I went to school ( 23k students ), no matter where you went, there were lots of college kids.


Southside is the Suck... So I feel bad if you lived there... Too much congestion and people, and your right there are lots of townhomes, and complexes.

I never venture to Northside, or West Side, but I do know that the Orange Park area is where most people live and its mostly single family homes.


Here in Jax, there aren't many well paying jobs. You have a solid number of well off people working for the banking institution and CSX ( WORST PLACE TO WORK EVER ) But that's it. There isn't many careers here were you are going to be rich. And that hurts the economy especially for pricier things like a Jags game. When you combined the average salaries, and the dramatic increase in housing costs, and property taxes, and utilities, it doesn't match the income people make around here. Combined with a heavy influx of transplants, and you don't have a ton of people trying to spend hundreds of dollars to watch a football game.

As I said to Kontra, small world. My stepson's grandmother lives on San Pablo in Osprey Point and I live about 5 minutes from there.

On a side note, what do you say that "CSX is the worst place to work ever?" Just wondering...

 

[Mogamedogz]

Re: OT:Jacksonville Crowd

WTF are you talking about??? My post was completely relevant to the subject of this thread. If you need me to speel it out, I was talking about Jax and possible reasons why there are so many empty seats in the stadium.

Seriously, WTF are you talking about???

Relax man...Im just asking about your sig.

I was prefacing MY post by saying that it was unrelated to the topic.

 

[Kontradiction]

Small world, I lived in an apartment complex on Hodges in between Beach and JTB.

Which one? Cape House? Bishop's Court?

 

[mcgraw_wv]

As I said to Kontra, small world. My stepson's grandmother lives on San Pablo in Osprey Point and I live about 5 minutes from there.

On a side note, what do you say that "CSX is the worst place to work ever?" Just wondering...

I worked there, and I was 27 at the time. If you like taking 3 months for a decision to be made, and enjoy the getting almost nothing accomplished, It;s Great!

CSX is great for people looking for an easy place to retire and get just about nothing accomplished, oh yeah and you only get promoted when someone retires...

My soul couldn't continue to live in that atmosphere...

 

[Kontradiction]

As I said to Kontra, small world. My stepson's grandmother lives on San Pablo in Osprey Point and I live about 5 minutes from there.

On a side note, what do you say that "CSX is the worst place to work ever?" Just wondering...

Nevermind. Osprey Point. Not sure I quite remember that. Regardless though, I'm definitely going back up there within a year. Should be well into my Master's work by then too so I can get back into UNF. I think I'll probably spend the rest of my life in Jacksonville or in Palm Coast (might move there when I have a family). I love North Florida. South Florida is beautiful too, but it's changed a lot.

Also, wv, when you take a bike ride down Hodges again and if you're curious, pull into St. Andrew's Place (Tom Morris Drive). It's on the right hand side after Providence High. Go three houses down to the right and you'll see where ole' Kontradiction from PatsFans.com laid his head at night. When you're riding back toward Beach, look to the right and find the Chi Phi Fraternity house and you'll see where ole' Kontradiction from PatsFans.com hung his head many nights puking in a drunken stupor on the driveway.

 

[mcgraw_wv]

Also, this thread proves why Jax can't sell out a home game. how many of us Die Hard Pats fans are on a PAts message board that live here in Jax? No just think of all the fans who aren't obseesed enough to get on a message board.


On that note, I do like to go to atleast one game becuase I do enjoy watching games at that stadium so I am going next week, hoping that the Pats handle business while being updated via Sprint!

 

[jmt57]

Why are the Jacksonville crowds small? Here's my theory:

1. Smallest market of all 32 NFL teams.

2. Florida has a very transient population, moreso than any other state. And within Florida, Jacksonville probably has more people who grew up elsewhere than other cities such as Tampa or Miami; most of those residents loyalties remain with the teams they grew up with.

3. Under the conditions above, it takes about a generation to grow a decent sized fanbase. While mom and dad are still loyal to the team they grew up with, the kids born in Florida become loyal to the local team. Unlike the Dolphins and Bucs, the Jaguars haven't been around long enough to build that new generation of fans.

4. More of Florida's economy is based on continued growth than other state's economy is. A very large portion of the state's jobs are tied to population growth and residential construction. When the housing/mortgage bubble burst, it affected the state of Florida more than any other state in terms of jobs. No income means no money for tickets.

 

[Kontradiction]

2. Florida has a very transient population, moreso than any other state. And within Florida, Jacksonville probably has more people who grew up elsewhere than other cities such as Tampa or Miami; most of those residents loyalties remain with the teams they grew up with.

You've apparently never been to Tampa or Miami before. I swear to God that there are more New Yorkers living in those two cities than in New York. Tampa was/is the mob capital of the south for a reason.

4. More of Florida's economy is based on continued growth than other state's economy is. A very large portion of the state's jobs are tied to population growth and residential construction. When the housing/mortgage bubble burst, it affected the state of Florida more than any other state in terms of jobs. No income means no money for tickets.

True. However, in 2015-2016, the Florida economy is going to be absolutely booming. Why? A lot of the baby boomer generation is going to be retiring and collecting all of that money they invested throughout their lives. While the economy as a whole will most definitely be negatively affected, Florida's economy will benefit because a lot of those people are going to want to retire in the Sunshine State.

 

[BAM!]

Which one? Cape House? Bishop's Court?

I lived in the Registry at Windsor Park on Hodges. My stepson's grandmother lives in Osprey Point on San Pablo.

 

[BAM!]

Re: OT:Jacksonville Crowd

Relax man...Im just asking about your sig.

I was prefacing MY post by saying that it was unrelated to the topic.

Oh, didn't quite get that, kinda stressed out... :ugh:

 

[BAM!]

I worked there, and I was 27 at the time. If you like taking 3 months for a decision to be made, and enjoy the getting almost nothing accomplished, It;s Great!

CSX is great for people looking for an easy place to retire and get just about nothing accomplished, oh yeah and you only get promoted when someone retires...

My soul couldn't continue to live in that atmosphere...

Gotcha. Sorry to here about your bad experience there but you're in a better place for you now right? If so, good for you. :singing: