After meeting with Broncos, Cutler formally asks for trade

[maverick4]

It is fool hardy to go into a meeting, where the purpose is to mend fences, and instead of mend fences and reassure a crybaby that he's your guy, to be arrogant and awkward. Even if you want to trade the guy, you don't want to lower his trade value by having him go ballistic on you.

One huge problem for Denver is they are pretty maxed out on the cap. Even if they wanted to trade Cutler for a #1, they probably wouldn't be able to afford the extra salary that would entail.

 

[Rob0729]

Re: After Meeting with McKid, Cutler Formally Asks for Trade

We know Cutler's a baby and not a team guy, in addition to being vastly overrated IMO. However, it's obvious that McDaniels is in way over his head and left NE one, maybe two, years too early to become a HC. Too bad for everyone involved.

Well, we don't know what really happened in the meetings since McDaniels and Xander aren't talking. We are hearing only Cutler's side of the story who was rumored to be trying to shoot his way out of town before the rumored three way trade. McDaniels may have blew it or Cutler is pulling a Terry Glenn/Ty Law to shoot his way out of town while making the coach and management the bad guys. Only time will tell.

 

[SVN]

Re: After Meeting with McKid, Cutler Formally Asks for Trade

It may be addition by subtraction in the long run. Culter is an overrated head case. I think McDaniels and Xander will benefit from this in the long run. They should get a first rounder for Cutler and whoever they get may be better than him anyway.

In a way, I kinda like the way the Broncos are handling this. It could blow up in their face, but Cutler was probably going to be a problem anyway because of his ego (he butted heads with Shanahan too) and the fact he probably doesn't fit the McDaniels system. Use Cutler as a warning to others and build the team you want without the divas like Cutler around.

People were ripping into Belichick with the way he treated Terry Glenn. Belichick was coming off a 5-11 season and Glenn was arguably the Pats' best offensive player in preseason of 2001. It rallied the team and made it stronger when most of the media and many of the fans thought it was the beginning of the end of the Belichick era. McDaniels is no Belichick, but problems like these sometimes end up being a blessing in disguise.

i have to agree. mcdaniels maybe inexperienced and all but he is still showing who is running the franchise. cutler is acting like brett favre .no wonder since he has the same agent as favre -bus cook.Reading this
Disappointed Bowlen: "We might lose our star QB" - The Denver Post

Cutler has insisted that until his situation gets resolved, all conversation with Broncos officials must include Cook, who led the discussions in both a conference call last Monday with Broncos officials that included Bowlen and chief operating officer Joe Ellis, and in the meeting Saturday at Dove Valley with McDaniels and Xanders.

Cook is the same agent who represents Brett Favre and helped facilitate the quarterback's trade out of Green Bay to the New York Jets last summer.

It's possible that because of their mistrust in Broncos officials, Cook and Cutler are seeking commitment from the team via a new contract. After making between $14.6 million and $17.3 million (depending on undisclosed incentives earned) through the first three years of his six-year contract, Cutler will draw a relatively affordable $1.035 million salary this season. Cutler could also earn an additional $100,000 by attending 90 percent of the team's offseason conditioning program that technically begins after the meeting Monday, although, for now, Cutler is willing to forfeit that workout bonus.

Cutler also has bonuses of $4 million in 2010 and $12 million in 2011 that are not guaranteed but would become vested through playing time and performance if
he remains with the Broncos.

,it seems like its all again about money
if cutler gets another contract,the agent gets more money else the agent is stuckwith the older deal. From what i read in another article seems like cutler and co want further reassurances in terms of a new contract.
Cutler is acting like he is elway and favre just because he is a 'pro bowl' QB. Well favre went to the pro bowl also last year. not much as deserving

 

[maverick4]

Re: After Meeting with McKid, Cutler Formally Asks for Trade

I think Belichick would have handled it very similiar to McDaniels. In fact, he did with Terry Glenn. You don't give players special treatment unless they earn it. Cutler hasn't earned anything.

It's more like the Bledsoe situation than with Glenn. You have a franchise face who is pissed, pouty, and wants out. Somehow Belichick got Bledsoe to play the quiet soldier for the rest of the season before getting traded.

Cutler is a little baby, but the situation was made worse with every move that the Broncos made with Cutler.

 

[Rob0729]

It is fool hardy to go into a meeting, where the purpose is to mend fences, and instead of mend fences and reassure a crybaby that he's your guy, to be arrogant and awkward. Even if you want to trade the guy, you don't want to lower his trade value by having him go ballistic on you.

One huge problem for Denver is they are pretty maxed out on the cap. Even if they wanted to trade Cutler for a #1, they probably wouldn't be able to afford the extra salary that would entail.

You make a lot of assumptions here:

First, you assume this was a meeting to mend fences and not a meeting to let Cutler know how things are going to be run.

Second, you assume that the meeting went the way Cutler said it did and that he isn't skewing the facts to make McDaniels and Xander look like the bad guys in all of this and Cutler's ultimate end game from the start was to get cut or traded.

Third, you assume the Broncos ate up most of the $34 million they had in cap space and that Cutler would be too expensive to cut or trade. Cutler's contract signed in 2006 only had an $11 million bonus.

 

[Box_O_Rocks]

Re: After Meeting with McKid, Cutler Formally Asks for Trade

It's more like the Bledsoe situation than with Glenn. You have a franchise face who is pissed, pouty, and wants out. Somehow Belichick got Bledsoe to play the quiet soldier for the rest of the season before getting traded.

Cutler is a little baby, but the situation was made worse with every move that the Broncos made with Cutler.

You mean everytime something happens Bus Cook is on the phone to his pet reporters spinning. So far the only fence mending needed is the pie hole under Cutler's nose and better ointment for his diaper rash. As usual, your foolish hatred of all things McDaniels overpowers any objectivity you might muster.

 

[Deus Irae]

Re: After Meeting with McKid, Cutler Formally Asks for Trade

It's more like the Bledsoe situation than with Glenn. You have a franchise face who is pissed, pouty, and wants out. Somehow Belichick got Bledsoe to play the quiet soldier for the rest of the season before getting traded.

Cutler is a little baby, but the situation was made worse with every move that the Broncos made with Cutler.

Really? What moves did "the Broncos" make with Cutler that made the situation worse?

 

[nashvillepatsfan]

Re: After Meeting with McKid, Cutler Formally Asks for Trade

Even I, biased against McDaniels, am surprised that McDaniels has displayed this much lack of situational awareness. You go into a meeting to mend things with your QB who you know is a whiny biatch, and instead of making things better, you say exactly the things to get him to become even more flustered! Even if you still wanted to trade Cutler, only a moron would tell that to Cutler's face after admitting to lying about trying to trade him a few weeks ago!

Did you not read the entire article? Do you have some problem with Josh?

 

[Rob0729]

Re: After Meeting with McKid, Cutler Formally Asks for Trade

It's more like the Bledsoe situation than with Glenn. You have a franchise face who is pissed, pouty, and wants out. Somehow Belichick got Bledsoe to play the quiet soldier for the rest of the season before getting traded.

Cutler is a little baby, but the situation was made worse with every move that the Broncos made with Cutler.

Bledsoe has more class than Cutler and handled his situation with more dignity, but according to Bledsoe Belichick and Weis screwed him over worse than McDaniels did to Cutler. Bledsoe maintains that Belichick and Weis promised him that he would get his starting job back when he was healthy and he didn't even get to compete for it. If Bledsoe had Cutler's demeanor, there would have been a hell storm come around the playoffs because of this. Bledsoe by most accounts still hates Weis and isn't the biggest Belichick fan.

So the only difference between the two situations is that Bledsoe is more of a man than Cutler. How is that McDaniels' fault?

 

[ICSB]

I am glad Peyton threw Cutler in the pool.

I am not glad that the division is getting way too easy for San Diego. 7-9 wins it next year?

 

[Rob0729]

Re: After Meeting with McKid, Cutler Formally Asks for Trade

Did you not read the entire article? Do you have some problem with Josh?

Yes, he does. It is well documented maverick has an irrational hate for the guy.

 

[nashvillepatsfan]

Re: After Meeting with McKid, Cutler Formally Asks for Trade

I do not understand what Josh did that was so offensive. Didn't he just listen to an offer?

Josh, so far, hasnt admitted to doing anything nearly as bad as espn makes it sound. Cutler, and most importantly, HIS AGENT, are really doing a good job of spinning things against the Broncos.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

Re: After Meeting with McKid, Cutler Formally Asks for Trade

So the only difference between the two situations is that Bledsoe acted like a man while Cutler is acting like a baby. How is that McDaniels' fault?

Fixed your post for you.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

I am glad Peyton threw Cutler in the pool.

I am not glad that the division is getting way too easy for San Diego. 7-9 wins it next year?

Matt Cassel might have something to say about that.

 

[Rob0729]

Re: After Meeting with McKid, Cutler Formally Asks for Trade

Fixed your post for you.

Well, it was kinda implied, but thanks.

 

[nashvillepatsfan]

Re: After Meeting with McKid, Cutler Formally Asks for Trade

It's more like the Bledsoe situation than with Glenn. You have a franchise face who is pissed, pouty, and wants out. Somehow Belichick got Bledsoe to play the quiet soldier for the rest of the season before getting traded.

Cutler is a little baby, but the situation was made worse with every move that the Broncos made with Cutler.

clueless

 

[ICSB]

Matt Cassel might have something to say about that.

I hope so. Go Chiefs!

 

[Patjew]

Re: After Meeting with McKid, Cutler Formally Asks for Trade

Josh, so far, hasnt admitted to doing anything nearly as bad as espn makes it sound. Cutler, and most importantly, HIS AGENT, are really doing a good job of spinning things against the Broncos.

If someone called BB offering to trade for Brady, I am sure BB would listen. You have to. I see no evidence of anything more than that except for these BS "leaks" by the Cutler camp.

So maybe Josh could have done something more to smooth this over, but Cutler is the real schmuck here. I'd like to see him traded to Detroit, just to spite him.

 

[BradyBranch39]

I hope that:
1. He doesn't go to the Jests
2. He doesn't go the Browns

McDaniels might in fact be better off without him, but that's IF he's employed in 2010.

 

[maverick4]

assume that the meeting went the way Cutler said it did and that he isn't skewing the facts to make McDaniels and Xander look like the bad guys in all of this and Cutler's ultimate end game from the start was to get cut or traded.

The rest of the article gets McDaniels' story, it includes both sides, not just the spin from Cutler.

There are a few inconvenient points that are hard to shake. The Broncos thought about trading Cutler then denied it, and then in a follow up meeting, admitted they considered a trade and then said they would consider future ones as well. At bare minimum they are telling their starting QB they lied to him.

I have to give McDaniels credit though, he is doing an excellent job destroying the Broncos for the Patriots, with more lack of situational awareness and inexperience.