Projection for compensatory picks?

[maverick4]

Edit 2: March 22-25 - NFL Annual Meeting, Dana Point, California.

I like the pace. We'll hear of picks shortly after Feb 27 for Cassel, then a few weeks later for compensatory picks, and then a few weeks later we have a bunch of new toys from the draft. Just enough positive news every few weeks this off season to keep things fun

 

[ScottieC]

I like the pace. We'll hear of picks shortly after Feb 27 for Cassel, then a few weeks later for compensatory picks, and then a few weeks later we have a bunch of new toys from the draft. Just enough positive news every few weeks this off season to keep things fun

I don't like it at all.

I think that 2 weeks after the Super Bowl all the teams should be reassembled for a 16 game Flag Football season - Then have the Draft the next week and then have Pre-Season start the following week and then have an 18 game regular season, then Play-Offs, the Super Bowl (or Fluke Bowl if the Pats are not in it) and then start from the beginning.

I'm just sayin'.

 

[maverick4]

It's a lot better this year than previous year's when almost nothing happened till the draft

 

[jmt57]

I saw it listed here on PatsFans by somebody in just the last few days, but couldn't find the thread. The original poster had a link as I recall, and listed the Pats with a total of 11 picks. The Pats have their own pick in each round, plus an additional pick in the 2nd round (trade with the Chargers, #47 overall), #97 overall at the end of the third round as compensation for Asante Samuel, #136 at the end of the 4th round as compensation for Donte Stallworth, and #167 at the end of the 5th round as compensation for Randall Gay.

I'll post the link if/when I find that thread.

 

[Fencer]

Flag Football

I don't think that's a good idea.

 

[Fencer]

Typically around the end of March. Not sure if the NFL announces the exact date ahead of time.

Edit: Now that I think about it, the announcement happens during the owners meeting...so if someone knows the date of an owners meeting around the end of March, that should be your answer.

Edit 2: March 22-25 - NFL Annual Meeting, Dana Point, California.

Drat. Many big trade/FA decisions have to be made before then.

 

[PATSYLICIOUS]

Funny to think we got him with a 4th rounder and we are going to get a 3rd rounder for him even after he was no longer under contract to us.

 

[CanadianPat'sFan]

Here is a short explanation provided by nepatriotsdraft.com I read back in December.

3rd Round Compensatory Pick - From Asante Samuel
Samuel's $9 million average salary easily qualifies for a 3rd Rounder.

4th Round Compensatory Pick - From Donte Stallworth
Stallworth's $5 million average salary is on the border of a 4th or 5th Rounder.

6th Round Compensatory Pick - From Randall Gay
Gay's $3 million average salary puts him on the border of a 5th or 6th Rounder.

Adding these picks to our current stock of 3 first day picks (including San Diego's 2nd Rounder) should allow us to get younger at certain positions while giving us ammunition to move around. These compensatory picks can't be traded, but they would allow us to trade other picks to move up or to stockpile picks for next year.

 

[DaBruinz]

Here is a short explanation provided by nepatriotsdraft.com I read back in December.

3rd Round Compensatory Pick - From Asante Samuel
Samuel's $9 million average salary easily qualifies for a 3rd Rounder.

4th Round Compensatory Pick - From Donte Stallworth
Stallworth's $5 million average salary is on the border of a 4th or 5th Rounder.

6th Round Compensatory Pick - From Randall Gay
Gay's $3 million average salary puts him on the border of a 5th or 6th Rounder.

Adding these picks to our current stock of 3 first day picks (including San Diego's 2nd Rounder) should allow us to get younger at certain positions while giving us ammunition to move around. These compensatory picks can't be traded, but they would allow us to trade other picks to move up or to stockpile picks for next year.

I believe that Stallworth's will be downgraded to a 5th because he didn't play much this year and when he did, he didn't produce much. If I'm wrong, and its a 4th, I'll be happy.

 

[Fencer]

Let's assume the Pats think they currently stand at, conservatively,

1. All their picks.
2. The SD 2nd.
3. 3rd, 5th, and 6th for compensatory picks.

Now let's suppose that Detroit agreed Cassel was worth roughly their 2nd and 3rd best picks, but wanted to:

A. Save face.
B. Restock.

Suppose that the deal was the Pats get the Dallas 1st and the Detroit 2nd, while Detroit gets Cassel and three picks -- say the Pats' 3rd, 4th, and 5th.

Detroit would then be getting FOUR young players for 2 picks, one of them Cassel.

The Pats would be coming away with five picks in the first 2 rounds, a pick at the end of the 3rd, and four more late picks, which would seem like more than enough.

 

[Deus Irae]

Let's assume the Pats think they currently stand at, conservatively,

1. All their picks.
2. The SD 2nd.
3. 3rd, 5th, and 6th for compensatory picks.

Now let's suppose that Detroit agreed Cassel was worth roughly their 2nd and 3rd best picks, but wanted to:

A. Save face.
B. Restock.

Suppose that the deal was the Pats get the Dallas 1st and the Detroit 2nd, while Detroit gets Cassel and three picks -- say the Pats' 3rd, 4th, and 5th.

Detroit would then be getting FOUR young players for 2 picks, one of them Cassel.

The Pats would be coming away with five picks in the first 2 rounds, a pick at the end of the 3rd, and four more late picks, which would seem like more than enough.

If what we are reading about Cassel's price is true, why would New England make this trade?

 

[Lloyd_Christmas]

We picked up Jordon and Lewis Sanders who both played some significant time. That might offset some or all of the compensation for a guy like Stallworth.

I still think we get a pick for Samuel and probably Gay though.

 

[Jimke]

We picked up Jordon and Lewis Sanders who both played some significant time. That might offset some or all of the compensation for a guy like Stallworth.

I still think we get a pick for Samuel and probably Gay though.

Both Jordan and Sanders were released by their former teams.

They would not fit into the compensation formula.

 

[Fencer]

If what we are reading about Cassel's price is true, why would New England make this trade?

Because it's near the high end of what we're reading about Cassel's price.

 

[Deus Irae]

Because it's near the high end of what we're reading about Cassel's price.

Why would you expect New England to be giving up those picks in rounds 3-5 to make that deal? Where does that approach any "high end"?

 

[Fencer]

Why would you expect New England to be giving up those picks in rounds 3-5 to make that deal? Where does that approach any "high end"?

That was my whole point. On the old trade value chart, their value is small compared to the value of the higher picks. Yet they feel like they're a lot more valuable than they are.

 

[Deus Irae]

That was my whole point. On the old trade value chart, their value is small compared to the value of the higher picks. Yet they feel like they're a lot more valuable than they are.

But my point is that a starting point of a 1st and a 3rd is already being bandied about, so why would the Patriots be giving away picks, even if they are 3-5? That would limit the team's ability to move up in the draft should it want to, or to push those picks into the next draft.

 

[Fencer]

But my point is that a starting point of a 1st and a 3rd is already being bandied about, so why would the Patriots be giving away picks, even if they are 3-5? That would limit the team's ability to move up in the draft should it want to, or to push those picks into the next draft.

I proposed a better deal than receiving a 1st and a 3rd, namely receiving a 1st plus the top pick in the 2nd round, and sending out a few picks starting with a later 3rd.

 

[Deus Irae]

I proposed a better deal than receiving a 1st and a 3rd, namely receiving a 1st plus the top pick in the 2nd round, and sending out a few picks starting with a later 3rd.

A 1st and 3rd is not at "the high end" of what's been reported.

 

[drew4008]

No way we get a 4th for Stallworth, he's useless. I'd guess an early 6th.