TinhWoodhead
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Normally I'm for decriminalization of drugs but your post is making me reconsider
anyone tell you you look like Brett Farve in that pic?
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Yeah I remember a backup who looked just like that before he got his first start for the Patriots. His name was Tom Brady, no.12 I think!
You draftniks are really DUMB.
The Patriots have a 35 going on 36 year old QB, that y'all think will play forever, or another 5 years. We can already see some deterioration of his long passing skills, yet you think its a good idea to trade an extraordinary talented QB prospect, that Bill Belichick's skill has brought to Foxboro.
Now he may or may not be a great or even good QB, but no one doubts that he has rare talent and size, with a rocket arm. Sure he can't run around like RG III or Russell Wilson, but he has an even better arm than Luck, and running QBs are exciting, but don'tseem to win anything.
In case you have forgotten, Tom Brady is a pocket passer and not a runner either. The only criticism of Mallett was an amorphous critique of his character, that was NOT buttressed by any facts, just press insinuations.
He has already demonstrated that he is not lazy, is coachable, and Belichik is impressed with his studiousness. He has not played much, but he is team oriented and works hard, given the numerous "Black Shirts" he was awarded.
In his time with the Patriots he has kept his nose clean; and to the grindstone, studying and diligently practising and learning. Sooner or later the Patriots will need either a backup or a replacement QB, and no one else is as close to being prepared to step forward, if needed.
The upcoming draft isn't a good one for rookie qb's. This might spike the demand for Mallett. I see BB signed Kafka to a futures contract. Cassel could be a bridge gap back up for vet min.
Do you think that BB will trade Mallett to some desperate team to better the rest of the roster? He may be able to get multiple picks.
Normally I'm for decriminalization of drugs but your post is making me reconsider
You draftniks are really DUMB.
The Patriots have a 35 going on 36 year old QB, that y'all think will play forever, or another 5 years. We can already see some deterioration of his long passing skills, yet you think its a good idea to trade an extraordinary talented QB prospect, that Bill Belichick's skill has brought to Foxboro.
Now he may or may not be a great or even good QB, but no one doubts that he has rare talent and size, with a rocket arm. Sure he can't run around like RG III or Russell Wilson, but he has an even better arm than Luck, and running QBs are exciting, but don'tseem to win anything.
In case you have forgotten, Tom Brady is a pocket passer and not a runner either. The only criticism of Mallett was an amorphous critique of his character, that was NOT buttressed by any facts, just press insinuations.
He has already demonstrated that he is not lazy, is coachable, and Belichik is impressed with his studiousness. He has not played much, but he is team oriented and works hard, given the numerous "Black Shirts" he was awarded.
In his time with the Patriots he has kept his nose clean; and to the grindstone, studying and diligently practising and learning. Sooner or later the Patriots will need either a backup or a replacement QB, and no one else is as close to being prepared to step forward, if needed.
The 2 best QBs in the NFL this year were 35 and 36 years old. Neither shows much "deterioration", as you put it. Any team that loses a QB of that magnitude is going to experience a significant "deterioration", no matter who steps in.
Mallett assuredly has value. No one's suggesting dumping him. BB clearly values him. But do you really see him starting over Brady in the next 2 years? And do you really see him taking over as the successor to Brady after 2014? If not, then he's likely gone, as he won't want to ride the pine forever, and even if he somehow agreed the cap hit of keeping 2 QBs with high priced deals (which it would take to keep him if the Pats convinced him that he was "the successor") would be prohibitive, so if there is an opportunity to get something of value for him (which there may not be), then it's not unreasonable to consider it.
In this thread alone there has been several proposals to trade him for a passell of late picks. I never said that Mallett is a sure follow on to Brady, but but he is more talented than any QB prospect that a 7th rounder will likely supply. Both the 35 year old Brady, and 36 year old Manning, as QBs have lost a full year or more to injury. If either had another such an injury now, that may indeed be the end for either of them.
If you don't think Mallett is the answer, you should be discussing how to accumulate a pair of First Rounders in the the next few years to be able to trade upto draft for a "franchise" QB candidate.
At this stage of the Rebuild, the Pats don't need a passell of late picks. They are already young and deep. They need a few high draft pick studs to raise the frontliners play. In case you hadn't noticed, Bill Belichick shifted strategy last draft from numbers to quality. He traded up, instead of down, as was his usual Modus Operandi, for Jones and Hightower.
I never said that Mallett is a sure follow on to Brady, but but he is more talented than any QB prospect that a 7th rounder will likely supply.
My problems with Mallett (while playing at Arkansas) were his wild throws (also throwing too fast at too close a range) and I thought he would have benefited greatly from his senior year. Mallett did not improve that much between his sophomore and junior years. He improved on his speed in the short passing game, but not his wild arm. I expected more from him, especially with the WR's he had at Arkansas. The WR's dropped a lot of his nice passes while here, but Mallett flat out missed wide open guys far too often. He threw passes that will be sure INT's in the NFL. It will be interesting to see how he plays in the off-season - if he is going to have any value he will garner it there. Of course, I hope he earns enough value to keep in NE. He's got a cannon of an arm and I would like to see if he can learn to control it. Mallett devours film and understands the game/O/system - the reason I believe they drafted him. It is time for him to put up or shut up - I guess we will see.
You draftniks are really DUMB.
3. What does anyone actually think that Belichick would suddenly trade Mallett for? Who is going to give us anything for Ryan Mallett at this point in time, and why would they do that?
Two thoughts:
(1) At least one team made an offer in 2009 for Myron Pryor (before, of course, the Pats traded Seymour).
(2) Also in 2009, when the Pats wanted Derrick Burgess, Al Davis' original offer was Burgess for Kevin O'Connell and Sebastian Vollmer.
I'm more than happy to keep Mallett on board (I think his potential is huge and I'm happy to have him in the unfortunate instance that Brady is sidelined). What most GM's should be asking themselves is is Mallett better than any of the current draft eligible QB's? Looking at the field, you'd have to lean seriously to yes, he is.Sure, I suppose that you have a point in saying that someone may offer "something" for Ryan Mallett, that is certainly fair. I just hope that this isn't a part two of the ongoing saga of the Brian Hoyer (high round pick) story here on patsfans, that's all.
I just don't think that there is much of a reward for the kind of draft pick that he would demand at this point in time, especially when Belichick may have not had enough of a look himself one way or another.
What most GM's should be asking themselves is is Mallett better than any of the current draft eligible QB's? Looking at the field, you'd have to lean seriously to yes, he is.
Sure, I suppose that you have a point in saying that someone may offer "something" for Ryan Mallett, that is certainly fair. I just hope that this isn't a part two of the ongoing saga of the Brian Hoyer (high round pick) story here on patsfans, that's all.
I just don't think that there is much of a reward for the kind of draft pick that he would demand at this point in time, especially when Belichick may have not had enough of a look himself one way or another.