RayClay
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I doubt anyone here is going to argue that he isnt upgradable.
lol :bricks:
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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.I doubt anyone here is going to argue that he isnt upgradable.
Amazing stupidity, even for you. A guy who is a UDFA joins the team, and is supposed to take over for the first-round pick. Right. BenJarvus ousted Maroney, and everyone here but you knows he managed it because he is a more talented back than Maroney.
Your argument could be used against Brady to say, why didn't Brady replace Bledsoe immediately if he's so good. Stupidity!!!!!
I want to make sure I understand your argument.What tells me his not easy to upgrade is that the suggestions being made by fans (Mendenhall, Marshawn Lynch and Shonn Greene, for instance) would not work here. Greene is better at breaking tackles, but he's not as fast as Green-Ellis nor is he a homerun threat. Mendenhall is better at breaking tackles and is a homerun threat, but he lacks vision, dances behind the line like Maroney and gets stuffed for losses often. Lynch dances behind the line and is a POS which is why he was given the heave-ho in Buffalo.
People think the grass is greener.
Can we upgrade by going for the all-pros at the position.
Of course, but ever since Sam Cunningham, New England has drafted only ONE player like that.
It's been thirty years. One player. Countless RBs drafted in the top rounds: Tony Collins, Craig James, Robert Weathers, John Stephens, Reggie Dupard, Curtis Martin, Robert Edwards, Lawrence Maroney, JR Redmond, Kevin Faulk, Sedrick Shaw, Leonard Russell, Jon Williams, Vagas Ferguson, Horace Ivory.
The Patriots have drafted 15 backs in the top rounds over a span of 30 years, and of those backs only 1 has been an upgrade over BenJarvus--with the possible exception of Robert Edwards who was injured in his second year.
Now I know that's a poor drafting record, but still... those All-Pro RBs are hard to find.
There are many players on that list who were better RBs for a year than BJGE was in his one year. I think your memory is off.
Maroney, btw is very arguable. He was certainly as good in 2007 as BJGE was this year.
Amazing stupidity, even for you. A guy who is a UDFA joins the team, and is supposed to take over for the first-round pick. Right. BenJarvus ousted Maroney, and everyone here but you knows he managed it because he is a more talented back than Maroney.
Your argument could be used against Brady to say, why didn't Brady replace Bledsoe immediately if he's so good. Stupidity!!!!!
What numbers?The numbers don't show that.
We're constantly told that draft position doesn't matter with BB, and that talent wins out. You're essentially arguing that BB kept BJGE as the team's #5 RB because he was a UFDA and Maroney was a first round pick. That, unfortunately for your argument, doesn't explain why he'd be behind the other running backs.
I want to make sure I understand your argument.
Are you PREDICTING that BJGE will surpass those guys or are you claiming he is already better?
There are many players on that list who were better RBs for a year than BJGE was in his one year. I think your memory is off.
Maroney, btw is very arguable. He was certainly as good in 2007 as BJGE was this year.
Edwards, Stevens (ridiculous to compare BJGE this year to Jon Stephens rookie year) Martin, James, Collins all had better seasons, and Ivory and Ferguson probably did too, but it was a diffrent league and very hard to compare. Leonard Russell would be a pretty good equal.
Maroney was a jerk and was ditched while they could get something for him. Look at the mugshot, the team knew something.
BJGE did a good job after he was handed the job because Taylor wasn't up to it physically.
Since people here are so big on statistics, look up the yards per carry of all our backs in the 2010 preseason and tell me BJGE "beat" anyone out.
Yeah then explain Brady. He didn't beat Bledsoe out for the job in that first year, must have questionable talent I guess.
What I'm saying is he learned the ropes. Just like countless other Patriots have. That much should be obvious to all but the most obtuse posters here.
Preseason?
bring back Bam Childress!!!!!!!!!!
Ok, you're now equating Drew Bledsoe, a 4 time Pro Bowler, with Laurence Maroney. That should tell you how bad your argument is, yet you think it's got some validity. :bricks:
Well, did he beat out Maroney, or not?
There aren't many places on the field left without holes, so be careful where you move those goal posts.
Man, one strawman after another, when you're beat, you're beat. You just try to maintain face with this ridiculous argument, but what ends up happening instead is your knee jerks so hard it slams you in the nose.
No one compared Maroney to Bledsoe.
The comparison was obvious to everyone else here who could read.
A green player without much experience spends a year doing nothing and then replaces a player that he ends up being much better than.
OBVIOUS to anyone who has admitted being wrong at least once in his life.
Yeah then explain Brady. He didn't beat Bledsoe out for the job in that first year, must have questionable talent I guess.
What I'm saying is he learned the ropes. Just like countless other Patriots have. That much should be obvious to all but the most obtuse posters here.
Amazing stupidity, even for you. A guy who is a UDFA joins the team, and is supposed to take over for the first-round pick. Right. BenJarvus ousted Maroney, and everyone here but you knows he managed it because he is a more talented back than Maroney.
Your argument could be used against Brady to say, why didn't Brady replace Bledsoe immediately if he's so good. Stupidity!!!!!
How many times this season did Law Firm carry the ball two or three times in a row? We need a guy who can gain yards and first downs (and a line that can support him) even when the other team KNOWS we're running. Law Firm is not a feature back, he's a change-up to the passing game. We need a guy that defenses fear enough to worry about defending the run even in apparent passing situations. Being steady and reliable enough not to fumble or lose yards is great, but not the legitimate threat needed to take pressure off Brady.
The answer for a complimentary to BJGE!
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Lol just heard on PTI, he can't be serious.
BJGE couldn't beat out Maroney.
Now I've heard it all.
One of the more ludicrous posts in the history of this place.
I responded to your post, cant really keep up with all the revisions.Obviously I agreed on Edwards and Martin, so I'm not sure why you compared them. James had one good year and fell into oblivion.
I don't think Maroney was ever as good as BJGE this year. Nowhere near as consistent. Maroney has a propensity for dancing behind the line and this put the Patriots in tough situations that we largely avoided this year.
Here is a guy who worked his way into the line-up with hard work and a can do attitude. He became the 1st Patriots RB since Dillon to put up 1000 yards in a season. He had a 4.4 YPC AND scored 13 TDs.. Yet, all I hear is people wanting to draft Mark Ingram or Mikel LeShoure as if that is going to make the running game better with the huge questions on the O-line with Neal, Mankins, Light and Koppen..
So, seriously, why is it that people want to replace this kid who did a helluva job this year?