We should bring Chad Jackson back

[Palm Beach Pats Fan]

What has Gaffney done so far? Uh nada.

Congratulations, you have started the two most stupid threads on the front page of this forum, arguing that Matt Cassel was not very good and that somehow we need Chad Jackson, a guy who has tried out with teams STARVING for receiver help (like Miami) and gotten nary a nibble.

 

[DaBruinz]

ur 2nd commetn is very interesting...

i also noticed gaffney become invisible...do we not play with 3 wr's anymore?

Gaffney was on the field a decent amount of time.. But he wasn't open that I could see. He should have been considering how they were doubling up on Moss and Welker.

Now, I will say this, on the sacks that Cassel took because the O-line get trounced, we don't know what the plays were.

 

[BradyToMoss]

Starting to wonder if Gaffney might be the product of one Tom Brady as we have seen alot of former WRs who were. These first two weeks, I've really had to scratch my head and wonder about Gaffney, even in the pre-season, I still remember that 30 yard pass going right through his hands.

BRiZ, as you know, I have no issues bringing Chad Jackson back, we keep hearing about Great STer Sam Aiken and the guy hasn't gotten on the field and Kelly Washington doesn't have nearly the game breaking ability of Chad.

I'm shocked he hasn't signed anywhere. I know he's had about 4-5 tryouts with the Raiders, Bengals, Titans and Fins and I think the Rams are bringing him in today or tomorrow, but at this point, I think his head is all screwed up.

He's still a really young kid who just needs time to mature and grow up. Maybe being tossed out into the street by BB is exactly what the kid needs to straighten his act up and realize that it takes more than just natural athletic prowess to succeed in the NFL. I would love for BB to take him back and give him a second chance.

 

[j00fek]

then bb should bring back bethel johnson too?

 

[BradyToMoss]

then bb should bring back bethel johnson too?

You're a major Sam Aiken fan aren't you. Isn't it great to have Sam taking up an inactive roster spot every week ?

 

[Lloyd_Christmas]

Some of you guys are nuts. Gaffney made some great blocks today that freed up important plays... more than 1 welker screen that would have gone nowhere if Moss or some other WR who doesn't block as good had been in there instead. He was also they WR blocking on one of faulk's big plays.

Look, even Moss didn't get many passes thrown his way. Cassel is the reason that some of these other WRs aren't getting as many opportunities IMO.

Bring back CJack?

 

[FirstAndGoal]

I'd bring back Troy Brown before I brought back blockhead Jackson.

 

[MetalBleachers]

Gaffney played today. He had some decent blocks.

Watch Cassel's two biggest pass plays (the 26-yard Welker screen and the 22-yard screen to Faulk) and you'll see Gaffney blocking downfield on both. He's solid. Jackson didn't work out - no one's more disappointed than I, but we all have to just let it go.

 

[FirstAndGoal]

Watch Cassel's two biggest pass plays (the 26-yard Welker screen and the 22-yard screen to Faulk) and you'll see Gaffney blocking downfield on both. He's solid. Jackson didn't work out - no one's more disappointed than I, but we all have to just let it go.

I love Gaffney. The guy is a solid player. He's not flashy but when his number is called, he's ready and he rarely lets you down. I think Gaffney will get another extension next year.

 

[DaBruinz]

ummm, Bill cut him, and kept CJ jones. Jones is now on the ps. Bill obviously like jones more than cjack.....hmmm, what does that tell you? Besides, we have Ventrone

Jones isn't eligible for the Practice Squad.

Comparing Jones to Chad Jackson is foolish because they are different types of players.

Jones is a return specialist. Chad Jackson, in college anyways, was a primary receiver.

I'll be honest, I am still baffeled by the cutting of Chad Jackson. I know that Reiss said that Jackson hadn't earned Brady's trust, but in fairness, neither was really on the field at the same time, so its hard for one to develop that sort of trust.

Last year was a lost year because the Pats put Jackson on the Kicking Coverage unit and Jackson blew out his knee against the Colts (AFCCG in January of 2007). Brady didn't play in a single pre-season game so he and Jackson couldn't develop the kind of trust that develops during game play. Cassel was trusting of Jackson.

But, enough of that. Jackson is gone. So is Jones.

 

[BradyToMoss]

Jones isn't eligible for the Practice Squad.

Comparing Jones to Chad Jackson is foolish because they are different types of players.

Jones is a return specialist. Chad Jackson, in college anyways, was a primary receiver.

I'll be honest, I am still baffeled by the cutting of Chad Jackson. I know that Reiss said that Jackson hadn't earned Brady's trust, but in fairness, neither was really on the field at the same time, so its hard for one to develop that sort of trust.

Last year was a lost year because the Pats put Jackson on the Kicking Coverage unit and Jackson blew out his knee against the Colts (AFCCG in January of 2007). Brady didn't play in a single pre-season game so he and Jackson couldn't develop the kind of trust that develops during game play. Cassel was trusting of Jackson.

But, enough of that. Jackson is gone. So is Jones.

Thanks for you honesty DaBruinz, alot of people here like to just say "Well, he suc*ed, he's an idiot, he's a bust", this and that. But the facts are still the facts and the guy really never had an opportunity due to injuries mainly to ever have a chance to develop a rapport with Brady. I'll stand by it, I think BB cut the kid too early. If it was done for financial reasons, then fine, but again, kid was making 649K, you invested a high 2cond round pick on him, atleast give him a chance this season and if he crapped the bed, then fine, send him packing, but atleast you can sleep at night knowing you found out and gave him a legitimate chance.

 

[Horace's Ivories]

it would be more sensible to just change your Avatar....

 

[BRiZ]

if we can bring Kyle Eckle back we can bring Chad Jackson back!! :singing:

 

[Pats726]

if we can bring Kyle Eckle back we can bring Chad Jackson back!! :singing:

Chad Jackson is a terrible special teams player... THAT is why Eckel was brought back...to play special teams. I really doubt he will be back this year..MAYBE for TC next year..but??

 

[ShrewBeer]

If jackson was worth anything someone would have at least signed him to their practice squad. When Bill Belichick outright releases a first day draft pick like that, the league takes notice. And I dont mean they take notice in a good way towards him.

 

[BradyFTW!]

I wouldn't be 100% tossing him on the Psquad, if he's eligible. Maybe getting cut and not being claimed by anyone will get him in the right mindset to mold himself into the player that he has the potential to be. If not... whatever, not the Pats' problem.

 

[ScottieC]

i mean seriously, nobody has signed him yet, hes got some more tryouts but we could bring him back easily and give him the opportunity to play. What has Gaffney done so far? Uh nada.

There is a good reason why 31 other teams have passed on Chad, and it's the same reason we cut him. He just is not a NFL caliber player. All due respect to Chad.

 

[rusH1023]

What is it going to take for you to realize that he DIDN'T FIT IN HERE? Plain and simple. Call Belichick an idiot, whatever. But he ain't coming back and that's all there is to it.

 

[spacecrime]

Thanks for you honesty DaBruinz, alot of people here like to just say "Well, he suc*ed, he's an idiot, he's a bust", this and that. But the facts are still the facts and the guy really never had an opportunity due to injuries mainly to ever have a chance to develop a rapport with Brady. I'll stand by it, I think BB cut the kid too early. If it was done for financial reasons, then fine, but again, kid was making 649K, you invested a high 2cond round pick on him, atleast give him a chance this season and if he crapped the bed, then fine, send him packing, but atleast you can sleep at night knowing you found out and gave him a legitimate chance.

Watch the first preseason game on tape. Watch him round off his cuts and telegraph his route. Watch him stop running because he evidently wasn't the primary receiver and watch teh ball get thrown to where he was. Watch Cassel rip into him for running the wrong route and watch he argue back. Lots of raw talent, unwilling to learn or be coached, is my guess.

Wasn't done for financial reasons.

Another good clue is that after the last preseason game, he was on WEEI bragging about what a playmaker he is and how he is faster than Moss. Think about how he might be acting in the locker room.

Add to that snippets we heard that he showed up for meetings without his playbook.

As far a cutting him too soon, you mean of course too soon for you, but based on what?

Don't you think that BB has a better handle on him? That seeing him every day and coaching him might give BB more insight into him than you?


Do you know something that BB doesn't/What do you know about him? That he did give the kid chances but you don't necessarily know what the chances were?

Guys are cut all the time without game experience. What makes Chad so special that he cannot be cut based on practices, coachabiilty and work ethic?