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  1. JJDChE

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    Ridley got a few carries this week. I could see him taking a good chunk away from BJGE as the season progresses. He's a more impressive runner from what I've seen. If he can hold on to the ball he'll be a more productive back in this offense.
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    Re: Under the radar...

    I think there are a few players on this team that could be considered under the radar (even some that at first might seem the opposite):

    Ridley - As you mentioned, he looked pretty good in his pair of carries, and as the weather gets colder I think we'll start to see a shift towards the run, and thus more carries to spread out amongst the backs. Throw in a minor injury or two, and he'll get some opportunities to make a splash.

    Ocho - At first you might think, "How is he UNDER THE RADAR!?" and you'd be right, he's as high profile as it gets. But no one has really had to worry about him yet. If he starts to ramp it up more as he gets it, he'll make some big impacts in games until teams are forced to pay him more attention.

    Bodden - I think because his injury was above the waste people have been expecting him to jump in and be just like he was in 2009. But anytime you're away from the game for a year, it takes some time to get your rhythm back. I think after the bye week, we'll really see him get his game together and start looking like the Leigh of two years ago.
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    Re: Under the radar...

    I thought he looked good......on his two carries.

    I was surprised they only ran him twice, but I wouldn't be surprised if he takes a number of BJGE's snaps as the season progresses.
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    Re: Under the radar...

    Running backs get dinged up all of the time. I think we'll see him make some key contributions in those games. I don't see him beating out BJGE though. Law Firm gets positive yardage, nose for the end zone and doesn't fumble. Perfect back to close a game out. No need to change that. I think we'll see Vereen before the year is over too. Even though they play the same position. I see Ridley as a backup to BJGE. Similiar skill set. And, I see Vereen(If he can block) as Woodhead's backup. We're very young there and also have quality depth(it appears only saying appears because they're rookies).
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    Re: Under the radar...

    I'm hoping ocho can really shine eventually. I'm hoping anyway.

    Yes, Bodden's injury was above his "waste" but isn't that unnecessarily graphic?
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    Re: Under the radar...

    Bah, I'm a writer too, so that looks especially bad! Above the "waist" rather ;)
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    Re: Under the radar...

    BJGE is the epitome of a "solid" Running Back.


    Not flashy, falls forward, rarely loses yards, NEVER fumbles, stays healthy.


    With that said, I do hope Ridley and Vereen get more touches. They can help out big time when it's -10 in Foxboro.
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    Re: Under the radar...

    I don't see BJGE as a clock killer by any strech. I would love to see if Ridley can get in and pound it before we face the Jets. We need a back and OL that can move the ball on the ground to take the pressure off Brady!
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    Re: Under the radar...

    I really hope we see more of Ridley soon too, he looked real good in the preseason. About to duct tape his name on my asante samuel jersey :D .
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    Re: Under the radar...


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    Re: Under the radar...

    Ridley and Vereen have to prove in practice that they can hang onto the rock before I take away touches from Green Ellis.

    You have to think that with Hernandez and possibly Vollmer out, the Bills will see a ton of double Gronkowskis this week on running plays and 3 WR, 1 Gronkowski and 1 RB on passing downs.

    That means a lot of snaps for Welker, Branch and Ochosucko.

    If ever there was a chance to Slater to have a good receiving game, this is it. Might also be a good game o move him back to safety.
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    Re: Under the radar...

    Not only is this pithy and original, but every time I hear it it's more abundantly hilarious than the last.
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    Re: Under the radar...

    I prefer OchoStinko because it rhymes. I only wish I could have been clever enough to think of it :(
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    Re: Under the radar...

    If there is one thing PatsFans are good at, it's coining insulting names for the players they are presumed to be fans of. Congrats, athletic supporters.
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    Re: Under the radar...

    Don't forget Danny Woodhead. Yes, everyone knows what he can do on the playing field, but he is so low to the ground that I don't think radar goes that low. So even standing on his tipy-toes, I think he is under the radar.
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    Re: Under the radar...

    where is shane vareen
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    Re: Under the radar...

    Ridley reminds me of Blount from Tampa
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    Re: Under the radar...

    I agree with you more than most of the others.

    Just b/c Ridley has shown us some decent runs in the preseason + the 2 touches last week does NOT mean that BJGE will be getting reps taken away, at least not for a while.

    I have a feeling that BB likes and appreciates the hard work and dependability of Green-Ellis, and if Ridley did see increased reps throughout the yr, I believe in will be in role/spot play settings. Situational settings etc.

    In other words, once again it seems like some people are looking for an excuse to take the ball out of Green-Ellis' hands..for whatever reason.

    Should either of the first 2 get hurt, then we'll see Ridley more. If not, I wouldn't expect to see him take more than a carry or two away from each of them, and even that is tough to see at this point.
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    Re: Under the radar...

    Remember that Ridley and Vereen have not been in the system very long, what with the lockout. I like the idea of them learning the playbook, learning how to practice the Patriot Way and slowly integrating them into games. On probably 30 other teams both of these guys would have already seen a lot more playing time already. The Pats have the luxury of bringing both of them along at a pace that suits the franchise. And from past experience, with both Taylor and Morris, who missed large stretches of the last 2 seasons, we know that these guys will be needed as the season progreses.
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    Re: Under the radar...

    BB didn't just draft Woody for his playing chops. He also uses Woody as a spy in the opposing team's huddle. Nobody even notices he's there, 'cause he comes in under eye level. :D
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    It's only a matter of time. All due respect to BJGE, but the only thing he has going for him is that he hasn't fumbled the ball. He's a dime a dozen back, talent-wise. Pretty much any RB can manage 4 ypc in this offense. Ridley has shown he's head and shoulders above BJGE as a runner. If he can show that his pass protection is good and avoid fumbling early on, he'll be eating the majority of Benji's carries by midseason.

    In 379 carries as a Pat, BJGE's longest run is 33 yds and best as I can tell he has had 5 runs over 20 yds. Ridley has 18 carries and he already has a 33 yd run and 3 runs over 20 yds.

    If he isn't getting the lion's share of the carries soon, I don't know what to say. BJGE will be a nice little backup though.
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    I think BJGE is the starter and clock killer.

    Ridley comes in when the defense focuses on stopping the pass and our offense struggles/we fall behind. I like BJGE but he can't make exploit those defenses like I believe Ridley will. If utilized correctly, and that is a big if given our tendencies to stray from the run game, Ridley can solve alot of this offenses problems that tend to occur in big games.

    But I still think BJGE is more efficient when it comes to getting the tough yards.
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    BJGE is not flashy, but the more I watch him the more I like him, watch his legs on short yardage.. most of the time he just hits the hole, and when he is hit he keeps churning and usually gets positive yards... he always comes up smiling, wanting more.

    He also is a pretty good blocker, and his pass receiving ability has improved as well.

    His ability not to fumble is as impressive, he is the definition of steady, blue collar the type of guy the patriots in the early 2000's were built around.

    Like Ridley also, but there is no reason to like both of them..
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    I think BJGE and Ridley compliment each other well. I see BJGE as more of a power back and Ridley as more of a speed type. I want BJGE in when it's 4th and 1. I want Ridley (or Woodhead) in when it's 3rd and long.

    I think both guys can have success in this system.
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    Re: Under the radar...

    That's like comparing Woodhead to Shonn Greene.
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    Hee hee...........
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    BJGE is a true smashmouth, wear-them-down RB, he is a grinder; that's his bread and butter. Ridley has his own style. By asking the defense to account for both styles and to prepare for both of them is stressing them to the limits of their ability to adjust because they already have our monster pass offense to prepare for.

    I really don't think (or rather, I hope) there will be a "backup" or a "workhorse." Rather we'll stick with the RBBC because I believe that's the best way to wear down a defense.

    Also BJGE has 16 TDs in the last 20 RS game, that's hardly a dime a dozen RB.
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    I think some of you are making Ridley out to be more of a speed / finesse back than he is, just because he appears to be quicker and faster than Green-Ellis.

    Still remains to be seen how it translates to the NFL, but in college he was the epitome of a smashmouth runner. He ran hard and guys usually didn't take him down without either additional help or yardage.

    (edit: That doesn't mean I want him taking all the carries. He needs to continue to prove himself, both with the ball and without it. But hopefully we stay committed to the run and use both backs to keep them fresh, along with Woodhead for a variety of looks and Vereen when he's health / ready.)
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    I agree with chicowalker, Ridley doesn't really compliment BJGE, he's a better version of the type of runner BJGE is. His style is very similar, except he's just a better natural runner. I don't think we're going to see BJGE cut or anything, but it appears that Ridley is just a better player that plays the same role. If he can doing the other parts of the jjob reasonably well, he should be the one getting the PT.

    EDIT: Also, Ridley isn't fast, BJGE is just really slow, which makes Ridley seem a lot faster.
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    Their running styles are different from the small sample I saw on Sunday. Granted I did not see Ridley run in college, but from the NFL samples I saw- there is no similarities in their running. BJGE seeks holes and rams through them. Ridley is very slippery and shoots through the hole and skirts any defenders. Ridley also has not demonstrated that he can drag people with him, he goes down on first contact, as he did when he was tackled for losses in Oakland.
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