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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.Don't say teams have done it, show me. When has a team taken a knee on FOURTH DOWN for a turnover? WHEN????
Don't say teams have done it, show me. When has a team taken a knee on FOURTH DOWN for a turnover? WHEN????
Teams have done it.
In fact I am almost certain the Pats have done it under BB. But I don't have time to go thru every box score so here is the play by play from the end of the Saints/Cowboys game from last year....
Granted it was a 25 point lead when Brees started taking a knee with 3 minutes left but don't say it doesn't happen. It does happen.
New Orleans - 11:11
1st-10, NO16 11:11 D. McAllister rushed to the right for 3 yard gain
2nd-7, NO19 10:26 D. McAllister rushed to the left for 2 yard gain
3rd-5, NO21 9:41 D. McAllister rushed to the right for 6 yard gain
1st-10, NO27 8:55 NO committed 5 yard penalty
1st-15, NO22 8:31 D. McAllister rushed to the right for 3 yard gain
2nd-12, NO25 7:44 D. McAllister rushed up the middle for 5 yard gain
3rd-7, NO30 6:59 D. McAllister rushed up the middle for 35 yard gain
1st-10, DAL35 6:07 R. Bush rushed to the right for 5 yard gain
2nd-5, DAL30 5:22 R. Bush rushed up the middle for 4 yard gain
3rd-1, DAL26 4:36 D. McAllister rushed to the left for 2 yard gain
1st-10, DAL24 3:54 D. McAllister rushed to the right for 4 yard gain
2nd-6, DAL20 3:07 R. Bush rushed to the left for 16 yard gain
1st-4, DAL4 3:00 D. Brees rushed up the middle for 2 yard loss
2nd-6, DAL6 3:00 D. Brees rushed up the middle for 1 yard loss
3rd-7, DAL7 2:00 D. Brees rushed up the middle for 1 yard loss
4th-8, DAL8 1:13 D. Brees rushed up the middle for 1 yard loss
Dallas - 1:13
1st-10, DAL9 1:13 T. Romo rushed up the middle for 1 yard loss
2nd-11, DAL8 0:33 T. Romo rushed up the middle for 1 yard loss
Thank you. I apologize for insisting it never happened. I guess there can be somewhat of an argument for turning the ball over to go out of your way and show respect. I don't agree with it though, I think the best thing to do is what we do, run the last string RB up the middle 4 plays in a row. I think it's more of a slap in the face to kneel-turnover the ball, basically saying "we feel so bad for you, here's the ball". Let them keep some pride and do what they are paid to do and stop you. I do back off my original impressions of turning it over on a kneel never happened etc... But I still don't think running it is "running up the score", and turning it over is a must to avoid "running up the score".
Again, thanks for the proof, I shouldn't sound so sure of myself when I don't know something for a fact. :bricks:
There were 19 seconds left when he scored. The classy thing to do is take a knee. What do you think, Dallas runs out and tries to score from 98 yards away, with the clock ticking away?? It was unnecessary, but not a huge issue.brady was asked about this when they went for it with 20 secs left and he showed a lot of emotion on the TD and why the cowboys shouldnt take this an insult.he said asked the cowboys.
now i want ask this. is it more respectful to kick a FG or run it up the middle giving their defense a chance to stop them ?
BB always has said this when teams did this to us occasionally that its the job of the defense to stop and offense to score. even romeo said this last week so why does hitting a FG make it more sportsmanlike. ?
i guess they couldve taken a knee but iam sure they wanted to piss wade off.
Thank you. I apologize for insisting it never happened. I guess there can be somewhat of an argument for turning the ball over to go out of your way and show respect. I don't agree with it though, I think the best thing to do is what we do, run the last string RB up the middle 4 plays in a row. I think it's more of a slap in the face to kneel-turnover the ball, basically saying "we feel so bad for you, here's the ball". Let them keep some pride and do what they are paid to do and stop you. I do back off my original impressions of turning it over on a kneel never happened etc... But I still don't think running it is "running up the score", and turning it over is a must to avoid "running up the score".
Again, thanks for the proof, I shouldn't sound so sure of myself when I don't know something for a fact. :bricks:
As far as I'm concerned, running it up the middle on every down with your 5th-string running back is pretty darned restrained.
We have a winner. Exactly right, patchick. Good call.
As far as I'm concerned, running it up the middle on every down with your 5th-string running back is pretty darned restrained.
The one question that needs to be asked is how would the board react if the situation was reversed and the Cowboys scored a TD in the same situation?
You could easily take a knee, teams have done it. Being up more than 1 TD with 20 seconds allows you to do that if you choose to do so.
Dallas themselves showed us why you cannot do this just last week. They scored 9 pts. with 20 seconds left to beat Buffalo. Why should we give them the same opportunity? It was good gamesmanship to run it up the middle. If you make it you've put the nail in the coffin. If not, they have to go the length of the field (twice) in 20 seconds, which they probably can't do. I can't believe people are making an issue of this. They could have stopped us, but they didn't.
The one question that needs to be asked is how would the board react if the situation was reversed and the Cowboys scored a TD in the same situation?