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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.This shows how many high round picks have been used for the Defensive backfield with poor results
T Wheatly 2nd
J Wilhight 3rd
Darious Butler 2nd.... should have gone here, but shows the difficulty this team has picking DBacks
Ras I Dowling 2nd rnd is working his way onto this list
Guss Scott..3rd rnd
Eugene Wilson 2nd rnd... had a good year once
Dexter Reid 4th rnd
Brock Williams...3rd rnd
James Sanders 2nd rnd
I think you might want to reconsider your judgment But of course you won't, you'll still try to rationalize.
A final mock by Todd McShay in cooperation with Steve Muench and Kevin Weidl from Scouts Inc. did a seven-round exercise.
Looking at just the Big Ten players in it, Tavon Wilson is not even listed. I've looked twice. The fools.
Obviously Bill knew more than the three of them put together. Final mock drafts from McShay and Kiper - Big Ten Blog - ESPN
A final mock by Todd McShay in cooperation with Steve Muench and Kevin Weidl from Scouts Inc. did a seven-round exercise.
Looking at just the Big Ten players in it, Tavon Wilson is not even listed. I've looked twice. The fools.
Obviously Bill knew more than the three of them put together. Final mock drafts from McShay and Kiper - Big Ten Blog - ESPN
Tell you what MO, if any other team pulled this move everybody here would be laughing and posting how incompetent they're front office was. One of the main reasons for losing the SB was the poor play of a collection of scrap heap DB's. i think maybe its time for this FO to reevaluate how they grade DB's. They're history of drafting isn't exactly stellar, and neither have the FA signings. The reason BB can get away with this for the most part is hes such a great coach, and has such a great staff they've been able to coach these players up. As has been noted here many times when a player moves to another team from the patriots they're never play as well thats because they sucked to begin with. BB can make chicken salad out of chicken feathers. But that only goes so far.Finally you see the light...
There is a reason Bellichick and Caserio and Robinson are on an NFL payroll while those pundits work for ESPN and Scouts Inc... They've never built a team that wins a damn thing let alone one that competes in Superbowls half the time...
On the other hand they're probably awesome fantasy GM's. :woohoo: :bricks:
The disappointment with the Wilson pick doesn't necessarily have anything to do with what the media ('draft experts') have to say.
It's about arriving at ones own conclusions based off a variety of reasons. To (smugly) assert that because Belichick drafted him it must be a great pick misses the point entirely.
You don't get to be an almost historically bad pass defense as we were last year without making major mistakes in the draft process, and by all appearances the team seems to have made the very same mistake again this year.
I understand that the draft isn't an exercise in making mathematical proofs; it's quite obviously a subjective process and you make the best decision you can based on the available information. But I think it's fair based on history at this position and the state of our defense to question that taking Mr. Wilson with the 48th pick is the best player this team could have taken given the situation.
The disappointment with the Wilson pick doesn't necessarily have anything to do with what the media ('draft experts') have to say.
It's about arriving at ones own conclusions based off a variety of reasons. To (smugly) assert that because Belichick drafted him it must be a great pick misses the point entirely.
You don't get to be an almost historically bad pass defense as we were last year without making major mistakes in the draft process, and by all appearances the team seems to have made the very same mistake again this year.
I understand that the draft isn't an exercise in making mathematical proofs; it's quite obviously a subjective process and you make the best decision you can based on the available information. But I think it's fair based on history at this position and the state of our defense to question that taking Mr. Wilson with the 48th pick is the best player this team could have taken given the situation.
To (smugly) assert that because Belichick drafted him it must be a great pick misses the point entirely.
I do wonder what the coaching staff thinks of Chung though.
I agree. However, one can assert that the media dropped the ball on this kid considering BB took him in the 2nd, and 7 teams had visits with the him. When you look at the number of kids coming out of so many schools, it's not hard to imagine that some good ones slip through the cracks. I think the kid shows promise and is a versatile, BB type of player. Time will tell.
Here's the thing Sciz. Its not about the player its about the slot. Clearly Bill liked the kid based on his own evaluations enough to think he was the 3rd best S in the draft. And its also clear that Bill, at least, thought there might be other teams who agreed with him, and who would grab him before his next pick.Two other AFC teams, believed to be the Chargers and Texans, had a second round grade on him. The Chargers had the pick directly after the Pats picked him. Try again.
The disappointment with the Wilson pick doesn't necessarily have anything to do with what the media ('draft experts') have to say.
It's about arriving at ones own conclusions based off a variety of reasons. To (smugly) assert that because Belichick drafted him it must be a great pick misses the point entirely.
You don't get to be an almost historically bad pass defense as we were last year without making major mistakes in the draft process, and by all appearances the team seems to have made the very same mistake again this year.
I understand that the draft isn't an exercise in making mathematical proofs; it's quite obviously a subjective process and you make the best decision you can based on the available information. But I think it's fair based on history at this position and the state of our defense to question that taking Mr. Wilson with the 48th pick is the best player this team could have taken given the situation.
The disappointment with the Wilson pick doesn't necessarily have anything to do with what the media ('draft experts') have to say.
It's about arriving at ones own conclusions based off a variety of reasons. To (smugly) assert that because Belichick drafted him it must be a great pick misses the point entirely.
You don't get to be an almost historically bad pass defense as we were last year without making major mistakes in the draft process, and by all appearances the team seems to have made the very same mistake again this year.
I understand that the draft isn't an exercise in making mathematical proofs; it's quite obviously a subjective process and you make the best decision you can based on the available information. But I think it's fair based on history at this position and the state of our defense to question that taking Mr. Wilson with the 48th pick is the best player this team could have taken given the situation.
The disappointment with the Wilson pick doesn't necessarily have anything to do with what the media ('draft experts') have to say.
It's about arriving at ones own conclusions based off a variety of reasons. To (smugly) assert that because Belichick drafted him it must be a great pick misses the point entirely.
What if 2 of your top 3 corners are injured, you also have 2 of last years top 3 safeties show up for camp and disappoint you with their performance to the point you cut them, one of their replacements is injured and you end up with WRs and street free agents playing in your secondary?You don't get to be an almost historically bad pass defense as we were last year without making major mistakes in the draft process, and by all appearances the team seems to have made the very same mistake again this year.
I understand that the draft isn't an exercise in making mathematical proofs; it's quite obviously a subjective process and you make the best decision you can based on the available information. But I think it's fair based on history at this position and the state of our defense to question that taking Mr. Wilson with the 48th pick is the best player this team could have taken given the situation.