Discussion in 'NFL Football Forum' started by NE_PATS_FAN_54, Dec 31, 2012.
I think that Tannenbaum was Jets biggest problem. I mean, there is no way that Ryan wanted Tebow. If he wanted Tebow, they would have used him. I think Tannenbaum have done what he wanted and didn't give a **** what Ryan wanted.
Other Black Monday casualties:
KC: Romeo Crennell (HC), Pioli has yet to hear on his status
JAX: Gene Smith (GM)
CLE: PAT SHURMUR(HC), TOM HECKERT(GM)
SD: Reports saying Turner & Smith are on the out.
ARI: Reports saying GM Rod Graves is on the way out, Wisenhunt will meet with ownership today as well.
PHI: Andy Reid (HC)
Agreed, plus he has left them in salary cap hell for the next year or two.
So the new Jet GM doesn't get to pick his own coach. Ah the sweet smell of Woody Johnson dysfunction continues to waft through NYC. Sweet!!!
Nice to see we will have Rex to kick around for another year..
Bring back Tanny.
He was doing a sterling job.
Actually, their biggest problem has always been and always will be Woody Johnson. Luckily, he's not going anywhere.
I can't believe the Jest would give everyone a belated Christmas gift of Rex (nice feet) Ryan for another year! This is one organization that keeps on giving. Lets hope for another dirty Sanchez season next year.
Great piece by Adam Schein at NFL.com:
New York Jets' worst move of 2012? Not firing Rex Ryan - NFL.com
As Schein notes:
Expect more garbage in 2013. The Jets have 7 picks in the top 10 of each round, but that will just make it a greater challenge for them to screw things up. And screw it up, they will, as long as Woody and Rex are there. Never underestimate the power of stupidity combined with ego.
As Schein notes:
Beautiful stuff. Happy New Year, indeed. Read it all, and enjoy.
Brilliant article, and important for putting more pressure on Rex this year.
The only thing i disagree with is the line that he also cant coach. His problem is that he tries to do everything else, when really hes just a phenomenal football mind with incredible defensive sets. He should just never ever be allowed to make personnel decisions.
The real beauty in this is now that it's done many of the poor Rex is a good guy HC who got a raw deal media toady's as recently as a week ago have suddenly taken a purely common sense look at the situation that now exists and realized wtf were we thinking, this doesn't work for anyone... It just sets Rex up to be axed next Black Monday by a new GM who may not be the best guy for the job because that guy wasn't interested in wasting another year of the limited window he will be giving selling discount tickets to the circus.
Happy New Year from the SOJ :rocker:
Schein credits him as a defensive coordinator. But being a HC is much more than defensive schemes and X's and O's. It's about talent evaluation, team chemistry, roster building and management, game management, clock management, etc. And Rex has failed on all those levels.
He can't coach all three phases of the game and he can't head coach. He's a brilliant DC on a loaded defense (like his brother who hasn't really landed with one yet...). But they are their father's sons and like him that's all either of them are despite what their egos tell them. Baltimore knew that. That's why they passed him over.
To be fair, there are only 22 head coaches in the NFL right now, and I would bet you could only make the case that 12 have the abilities you listed. I dont love Rex, but he is clearly in the top half of the league for coaches. That speaks more to the dearth of coaching options than to how good Rex s.
There are unemployed coaches who are far better coaches than Ryan. Ryan is a lousy coach, and he's nowhere near the top half of the league.
Huh? Top half of head coaches? Really? Have you not watched the team melt down around him under his leadership?
Are there 15 coaches in the league? Seriously.
There are tops two coaches per division. The list gets really sparse a lot faster than many would think. When it gets to the bottom half of the list, guys get moved up on success, and realistically, Rex has had a heck of a lot more success than most others.
I do not understand what you are saying.
There are 32 HC in the league, of which Rex Ryan is in the bottom tier. He should have joined the 7 that were fired. He is in their class, not the ones currently preparing for the playoffs.
What success are you talking about?
The funny thing is Ryan had Adam Schein so hoodwinked before the season that not only did Schein guarantee the Jets would make the playoffs this season, but that Ryan would win a Super Bowl as a Jets' coach. Here's the article:
New York Jets' Rex Ryan will win a Super Bowl -- one day - NFL.com
It is a really funny read in hindsight. Boy did Ryan snowjob Schein. He talks about the Jets' offense was going to be significantly better because Sparano is a mirror image of Ryan; Ryan was going to be more reserved, yet confident and not let the team become a circus like in 2011; and how Ryan would not let his defense finish so low as fifth in the NFL again (they were 8th in total defense and 20th in points allowed).
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