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I think that Tannenbaum was Jets biggest problem. I mean, there is no way that Ryan wanted Tebow. If he wanted Tebow, they would have used him. I think Tannenbaum have done what he wanted and didn't give a **** what Ryan wanted.
 
Other Black Monday casualties:
KC: Romeo Crennell (HC), Pioli has yet to hear on his status
JAX: Gene Smith (GM)
CLE: PAT SHURMUR(HC), TOM HECKERT(GM)
SD: Reports saying Turner & Smith are on the out.
ARI: Reports saying GM Rod Graves is on the way out, Wisenhunt will meet with ownership today as well.
PHI: Andy Reid (HC)
 
I think that Tannenbaum was Jets biggest problem. I mean, there is no way that Ryan wanted Tebow. If he wanted Tebow, they would have used him. I think Tannenbaum have done what he wanted and didn't give a **** what Ryan wanted.

Agreed, plus he has left them in salary cap hell for the next year or two.
 
So the new Jet GM doesn't get to pick his own coach. Ah the sweet smell of Woody Johnson dysfunction continues to waft through NYC. Sweet!!!
 
Nice to see we will have Rex to kick around for another year..
 
Bring back Tanny.

He was doing a sterling job.
 
I think that Tannenbaum was Jets biggest problem. I mean, there is no way that Ryan wanted Tebow. If he wanted Tebow, they would have used him. I think Tannenbaum have done what he wanted and didn't give a **** what Ryan wanted.

Actually, their biggest problem has always been and always will be Woody Johnson. Luckily, he's not going anywhere.
 
I can't believe the Jest would give everyone a belated Christmas gift of Rex (nice feet) Ryan for another year! This is one organization that keeps on giving. Lets hope for another dirty Sanchez season next year. :rolleyes:

J...E...T...S...:eek:<LAUGH>...:eek:<LAUGH>...:eek:<LAUGH>:bricks:
 
Great piece by Adam Schein at NFL.com:

In a year that included the Tim Tebow insanity, Mark Sanchez's gruesome underachievement, and the expression "butt fumble" becoming forever a part of the football lexicon, Monday's decision to keep Ryan and fire Tannenbaum was the Jets' worst moment of 2012.

Hey -- happy New Year.

The Jets had two choices: Take a deep breath and retain both Ryan and Tannenbaum -- a duo that won more games than they lost in their four years together -- or fire both. The one thing they shouldn't have done was attack the issue piecemeal.

The decision was very simple, but the Jets messed it up in "butt fumble" fashion.

New York Jets' worst move of 2012? Not firing Rex Ryan - NFL.com

As Schein notes:

Ryan and Tannenbaum should've been attached at the hip.


Ryan worked hand-in-hand with Tannenbaum on shaping the Jets. He had more power than most head coaches.

Ryan was convinced Sanchez had the talent and personality (which is laughable to think now, after Sanchez's postgame press conferences this year) to handle New York and thrive. He wanted to draft Sanchez. He pushed for Tannenbaum to give him that contract after speculation arose that the Jets wanted Peyton Manning.

Ryan wanted Tebow. He wanted to run the ball and get back to "ground and pound," and he envisioned Tebow as a threat in the red zone, in short-yardage situations and in the Wildcat.

Remember the toxic Jets locker room in 2011 and all the finger pointing that was part of that season's collapse? Ryan thought Tebow could help the locker room. That's a fact.

Yes, Tannenbaum was on board with the trade. But Ryan, who shares an agent with Tebow, drove the bus.

Tannenbaum wanted to sign Chad Henne to be Sanchez's backup. The Jets did, in fact, sign Drew Stanton before the Tebow trade. After the Tebow trade, Tannenbaum did right by Stanton, dealing him to the Indianapolis Colts. As it turned out, Stanton would've been the best quarterback on the Jets' roster this year.

Ryan hand-picked Tony Sparano as his offensive coordinator to run the ball. As Ryan told me, "I wanted to find the mirror image of me." It was an unmitigated disaster. The Jets' offensive line was the worst it had been in years. Ryan wanted Dave DeGuglielmo as his line coach. Ryan told me on SiriusXM this summer that he knew DeGuglielmo was his guy when he saw him kick over a garbage can, showing fight. Garbage, as it turned out, was the ideal metaphor.

Expect more garbage in 2013. The Jets have 7 picks in the top 10 of each round, but that will just make it a greater challenge for them to screw things up. And screw it up, they will, as long as Woody and Rex are there. Never underestimate the power of stupidity combined with ego.

As Schein notes:

Ryan, meanwhile, got to keep his job, even though he can't coach, manage, or properly evaluate players or coaches.

What legit general manager candidate would take this job and inherit Rex?

Beautiful stuff. Happy New Year, indeed. Read it all, and enjoy.
 
Great piece by Adam Schein at NFL.com:



New York Jets' worst move of 2012? Not firing Rex Ryan - NFL.com

As Schein notes:



Expect more garbage in 2013. The Jets have 7 picks in the top 10 of each round, but that will just make it a greater challenge for them to screw things up. And screw it up, they will, as long as Woody and Rex are there. Never underestimate the power of stupidity combined with ego.

As Schein notes:



Beautiful stuff. Happy New Year, indeed. Read it all, and enjoy.

Brilliant article, and important for putting more pressure on Rex this year.

The only thing i disagree with is the line that he also cant coach. His problem is that he tries to do everything else, when really hes just a phenomenal football mind with incredible defensive sets. He should just never ever be allowed to make personnel decisions.
 
The real beauty in this is now that it's done many of the poor Rex is a good guy HC who got a raw deal media toady's as recently as a week ago have suddenly taken a purely common sense look at the situation that now exists and realized wtf were we thinking, this doesn't work for anyone... It just sets Rex up to be axed next Black Monday by a new GM who may not be the best guy for the job because that guy wasn't interested in wasting another year of the limited window he will be giving selling discount tickets to the circus.

Happy New Year from the SOJ :rocker:
 
Brilliant article, and important for putting more pressure on Rex this year.

The only thing i disagree with is the line that he also cant coach. His problem is that he tries to do everything else, when really hes just a phenomenal football mind with incredible defensive sets. He should just never ever be allowed to make personnel decisions.

Schein credits him as a defensive coordinator. But being a HC is much more than defensive schemes and X's and O's. It's about talent evaluation, team chemistry, roster building and management, game management, clock management, etc. And Rex has failed on all those levels.
 
Brilliant article, and important for putting more pressure on Rex this year.

The only thing i disagree with is the line that he also cant coach. His problem is that he tries to do everything else, when really hes just a phenomenal football mind with incredible defensive sets. He should just never ever be allowed to make personnel decisions.

He can't coach all three phases of the game and he can't head coach. He's a brilliant DC on a loaded defense (like his brother who hasn't really landed with one yet...). But they are their father's sons and like him that's all either of them are despite what their egos tell them. Baltimore knew that. That's why they passed him over.
 
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He can't coach all three phases of the game and he can't head coach. He's a brilliant DC on a loaded defense (like his brother who hasn't really landed with one yet...). But they are their father's sons and like him that's all either of them are despite what their egos tell them. Baltimore knew that. That's why they passed him over.

To be fair, there are only 22 head coaches in the NFL right now, and I would bet you could only make the case that 12 have the abilities you listed. I dont love Rex, but he is clearly in the top half of the league for coaches. That speaks more to the dearth of coaching options than to how good Rex s.
 
To be fair, there are only 22 head coaches in the NFL right now, and I would bet you could only make the case that 12 have the abilities you listed. I dont love Rex, but he is clearly in the top half of the league for coaches. That speaks more to the dearth of coaching options than to how good Rex s.

There are unemployed coaches who are far better coaches than Ryan. Ryan is a lousy coach, and he's nowhere near the top half of the league.
 
To be fair, there are only 22 head coaches in the NFL right now, and I would bet you could only make the case that 12 have the abilities you listed. I dont love Rex, but he is clearly in the top half of the league for coaches. That speaks more to the dearth of coaching options than to how good Rex s.

Huh? Top half of head coaches? Really? Have you not watched the team melt down around him under his leadership?
 
Huh? Top half of head coaches? Really? Have you not watched the team melt down around him under his leadership?

Are there 15 coaches in the league? Seriously.

There are tops two coaches per division. The list gets really sparse a lot faster than many would think. When it gets to the bottom half of the list, guys get moved up on success, and realistically, Rex has had a heck of a lot more success than most others.
 
Are there 15 coaches in the league? Seriously.

There are tops two coaches per division. The list gets really sparse a lot faster than many would think. When it gets to the bottom half of the list, guys get moved up on success, and realistically, Rex has had a heck of a lot more success than most others.

I do not understand what you are saying.
There are 32 HC in the league, of which Rex Ryan is in the bottom tier. He should have joined the 7 that were fired. He is in their class, not the ones currently preparing for the playoffs.

What success are you talking about?
 
The funny thing is Ryan had Adam Schein so hoodwinked before the season that not only did Schein guarantee the Jets would make the playoffs this season, but that Ryan would win a Super Bowl as a Jets' coach. Here's the article:

New York Jets' Rex Ryan will win a Super Bowl -- one day - NFL.com

It is a really funny read in hindsight. Boy did Ryan snowjob Schein. He talks about the Jets' offense was going to be significantly better because Sparano is a mirror image of Ryan; Ryan was going to be more reserved, yet confident and not let the team become a circus like in 2011; and how Ryan would not let his defense finish so low as fifth in the NFL again (they were 8th in total defense and 20th in points allowed).
 
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