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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.Disagree GJA. Personal agendas posing as "journalism" always need to be responded to. The emails sent to Ryan that have been posted here have been far more well reasoned, articulate and fact based than anything the mediots have written on the subject.
From day 1 Spygate has ALWAYS been about the sinner and not the sin with the mediots..
They always need to be responded to by the public when they're on their personal mission to destroy someone simply because he refuses to repent for his football sins in front of the drunks, pedophiles, bigots and wife beaters/cheater who make up the congregation at the church of St. Media.
PS - Read with great amusement this morning how Pompous Peter: King of the Mediots has been reduced to Trent Dilfer as his source for commentary. Trent Dilfer?? Trent Dilfer??
Pompous Peter: King of the Mediots still isn't getting his Foxborough calls returned I see.
Don't let the facts get in the way of a terrible analogy...Ryan is in fantasyland on this one..Comparing this to Watergate is just completely idiotic. What Belichick did he did in plain sight. If he was seriously trying to be sneaky, do you think he would have been openly taping in front of 60,000 people in Giants Stadium?
When Kraft holds a trophy above his head, who does he thank first? That's right.
While he thanks the fans, the journalists can barely hide their disdain.
I think you missed the point. This isn't about whether Kraft respects the media. I don't care if he does. As a fan, I'd like to know who respects me. Clearly, the team at least pays lip service. The media doesn't even do that.Allow me to play devil's advocate:
Name me an owner who's thanked the media before the players, fans, and season ticket holders after winning a championship...Hell, name me an owner who's thanked the media at all.
I think you missed the point. This isn't about whether Kraft respects the media. I don't care if he does. As a fan, I'd like to know who respects me. Clearly, the team at least pays lip service. The media doesn't even do that.
Never read much of him, but thought he was considered the dean of sportswriters in the Boston Area.. without regard, just another lemming piling on BB.. it seems as though the Globe has gotten favorable publicity with the Reiss stuff, but now wants to be cast in the negative limelight.. maybe he is jealous of Maserotti..
http://www.boston.com/sports/footba...ith_belichick_the_cover_up_is_most_revealing/
Here is what Bill Belichick has done: He has placed Patriots fans on the defensive for the rest of their lives.
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He has been exposed as being monumentally disingenuous at best and utterly duplicitous at worst. There can no longer be any doubt that he engaged in a practice he knew was against the rules.
The big question we cannot answer is how important it all was, really. Did his illegal practice of taping opponents' defensive signals aid his team's chances of victory in certain games by 20 percent? Ten percent? Three percent? One-10th of 1 percent? Not at all? No one will ever know....
There is no way out. As long as Bill Belichick is the coach of the New England Patriots, America will despise this team. But a resignation or a dismissal would only lend legitimacy to the entire concept of wrongdoing.
Actually, beyond one statement from the column ("He alone of the 32 coaches was confused."... I would replace "confused" with "caught"), I don't see that any of the rest of the column is out of line. Obviously we don't share his opinion, but I can respect Ryan for not going off into any Belichick-should-be-suspended-for-life rants. This column is nothing if not compelling reading.
I was watching FBN and they've been running a special about one of the Oakland Raiders teams. Howie long was saying in an interview that there is
a sign in the lockerroom that states...Rule 1-Cheating is encouraged Rule 2- See rule one.
So what's all this about the integrity of the game?
The Pats biggest sin is that they're too good.
The league wants to set them back a notch to keep with
their desire for parity.
The whole "walk through tape" was a desperate set up job to
try and distract the Pats from that game. Timing was no coincidence.
Too many people did not want the Pats to have that unblemished record and they got their way.
Bob Ryan is in the National Media and plainly does NOT have the pulse of this fan base.
Bob should not be in a position to criticize BB. Come on, it's not like BB screw up on his first day at work.
Bob shouldn't be in a position to criticize because he's been around sports for so long that he should know that stealing signals is part of pretty much every sport.
You miss my point, and I did not articulate it well, I agree that many of the responses on this board are more intelligent and better written than the articles written by the mediots. Look at our recent history, Borges used to be our resident contrarian and he made a good living off of it.. when I confronted him on some of his writings he dismissed me first as a little girl and as a fan who did not understand. Fast forward to Felger on the Radio, he thrives on the conflict he generates. Recently Maserotti wrote a damning column on the state of the Patriot Nation.. and now Ryan. All of these columns point to the view that if you post an oppositional article then your column will be read.. thus if you respond you validate the reason for the column being written, if you ignore it their positions are not validated. Ryan et al are huge ego people and feed off of how they are viewed by the people who read their papers, they are not concerned about whether they are popular or not.. but more concerned that they are read by the masses.
Sent to Mr. Ryan this morning ...
What Belichick did was wrong. He has taken responsibility and apologized.
Oh come on man -- do you REALLY believe this?
I'm as sick of Spygate as the next guy, but it's been dragged on BECAUSE Belichick never really admitted what he was doing -- mumbling about not interpreting the rule correctly or whatever is far from telling the whole story.
He's largely to blame for keeping this can of worms from being topped. Had he taken responsibility like a man, this is over.
Maybe you should e-mail him if you're sick of it all.
Oh come on man -- the media still hates Belichick and would have piled it on whether he admitted what he did was wrong and apologized or not. I'm with you but a simple "I'm sorry" back in September couldn't have stopped the media hate for BB and also could not have stopped an asst. golf pro from lying through his teeth.
In it's own way this is just Bob defending THE most duplicitous (clever choice of words by Bob - he must have borrowed it from Mannix) aspect of this whole incident - the embarassing conduct of the sports media. Their conduct throughout moreso than Bill's is what has placed Patriot fans on the defensive. The conduct of his hometown media, moreso than his HC, is what Bob Kraft should be livid about. Bob and his brethren want to spin this all back to September. Sorry, September was history, a done deal, this is about February and the hundred days ordeal THE MEDIA put us and the Kraft's through, not what Bill was caught and punished for - a punishment he accepted with more dignity than any of them can apparently accept their's with. Somehow to them it is disingenuous to contend that Bill misinterpreted a rule, but perfectly reasonable to contend that Tomase's merely made a poor choice in verbiage. I'm right, you're wrong, we're principled, he's not, we're to smart to fall for any explanation he offers, you're too invested to admit the real villian is the victim and not the journalists who spewed rumor based venom about him for months only to have the core rumor prove baseless.
Bob can't admit that Bill was victimized because...well...the media doesn't like him. Because to do that would be an indictment of what the sports media itself has evolved into over the last decade - a collection of truly duplicitous pond scum, many of whom have been disciplined for their own misconduct and allowed to simply move on. And all to few of whom in the aftemath have been forced to conclude it was best for all concerned they also move out. This is as much about a region that finds itself with a lone HOF voter who became unemployable in the market he still represents over a personal vendetta with a friggin' football coach. Wrong says thanks for the solid today, Bob. Really loved that you snuck in the little dig at his personal life - page outta my book bro - and the Nixon Watergate analogy really tickled me, Tomase has sufficient girth girth to cover Woodward and Bernstein...dinner's on me next week buddy!
Times are changin in the media. Just not fast enough. The old boy network is shrinking. Maybe in the next belt tightening go round Bob or Shank will get their golden parachute. Naturally this too will be blamed on Belichick.