"Mentor" Dungy at it again

[efin98]

Dungy played and coached for over 40 years on all levels...this is a big load of garbage coming from him.

He knows how coaches have to vent their frustrations. He knows how players have to vent their frustrations. He knows better than anyone the why to swearing up a storm- to call out an active coach for doing it is ludicrous and hypocritical.

 

[Ilikehappyppl]

lmao, your kids hear worse stuff on the school bus/playground. I love the part of America that still lives in candy land and thinks life is a Disney movie.

I have a word of advice for Mr.Dungy, worry about your own self, stop worrying about others.He's a failure of a coach(with the talent he had on his teams) and from what I hear not that great of a father, should not throw stones if you live in a glass house...

 

[patchick]

Bullplop(I like this phrase, not being ironic).

They put it on at 10pm where kids are supposed to be asleep or not watching that kind of programing, put it on a premium channel where you have to pay to watch knowing the standards are non-existant if not lapse in the first place, put it online where you have to purposely seek the show out, then force you to have to register to see the episode- it does fit in with that argument.

They go to great lengths to keep it away from people who don't want to see it, to actually complain about the content is a load of garbage because to actually see it you have to want to see it.

Ah, but "they" don't have much control anymore.

If you think that the official programming slot and official site registration are real factors, you're thinking like a 20th-century-bred grownup. Do what any kid would do -- what EVERY young Jets fan will do. Just type "hard knocks" into YouTube to find all the profanity-laden episodes you'd like.

Note that this is not an argument for censorship. It's just an argument that the 10-pm slot doesn't mean much.

 

[Kontradiction]

I hate puritans period. Sorry, but anyone worried about your 6 year old son hering it, he'll hear a lot worse by the time he hits 2nd grade, trust me. You might as well lock your kid ina boarded room with bars on the windows if you're worried about them learning profanity. They'll know more words than you by 5th grade.

Especially in Port Saint Lucie.

 

[BradyFTW!]

Ah, but "they" don't have much control anymore.

If you think that the official programming slot and official site registration are real factors, you're thinking like a 20th-century-bred grownup. Do what any kid would do -- what EVERY young Jets fan will do. Just type "hard knocks" into YouTube to find all the profanity-laden episodes you'd like.

Note that this is not an argument for censorship. It's just an argument that the 10-pm slot doesn't mean much.

Once again: if your kid is using the internet unsupervised, then you'd be lucky if some Hard Knocks clips are the worst that he's digging up.

 

[Triumph]

It's classless or unprofessional if he's a network personality or he's giving an interview.

That's not what Hard Knocks is. The teams shouldn't be on tiptoes because the NFL has decided to do an HBO show that's supposed to be realistic.

If the NFL has a problem with how it fits with the NFL's image, they should cut the language out or not do the show.

If parents have a problem with their kids hearing that language, they shouldn't let them watch the show.

If adults are offended by such language, they shouldn't watch it themselves.

Nobody expects teams to tip toe through the show, but an effort could be made to clean the language up a bit.

I for one really dont care how many times Ryan says F this and F that. I can tell you this that if he talked that way around here in a public place, someone would tell him to shut up and if he persisted with his mouth it would closed for him.

 

[Kontradiction]

Once again: if your kid is using the internet unsupervised, then you'd be lucky if some Hard Knocks clips are the worst that he's digging up.

I was always a good kid when I was online unsupervised. Only softcore porn for me back then. :bricks:

 

[patchick]

Once again: if your kid is using the internet unsupervised, then you'd be lucky if some Hard Knocks clips are the worst that he's digging up.

"Unsupervised" is a broad (and loaded) word. Any kid can go to the public library and watch Hard Knocks. He cannot sit at that same library computer and watch [insert your favorite extreme hardcore title here].

But moving on...I'd say there's a broader question underlying the whole Rex vs. Dungy divide. Which image does the NFL want to have? This is a league that has always thrived on its rebels and tough guys. The "just win, baby" Raiders led the league in merchandise sales for years. I'd say Roger wants to walk a fine line: not thugs, but not choir boys, either. And big personalities sell. My guess is that this high-profile season of Hard Knocks is a big win for the league.

 

[stinkypete]

Eff Tony Dungy. On that note, eff Kurt Warner, Tim Tebow, Glen Coffee and all the other self righteous windbags who insist on oppressing us with their outmoded dogma.

As a football fan I have the right to seek out my pointless diversion without these holy roller old hens telling me how to live. Let me be and respect my ways and I will do the same.

 

[BradyFTW!]

"Unsupervised" is a broad (and loaded) word. Any kid can go to the public library and watch Hard Knocks. He cannot sit at that same library computer and watch [insert your favorite extreme hardcore title here].

Wherevera kid can find Hard Knocks, he can find a lot worse than Hard Knocks.

But moving on...I'd say there's a broader question underlying the whole Rex vs. Dungy divide. Which image does the NFL want to have? This is a league that has always thrived on its rebels and tough guys. The "just win, baby" Raiders led the league in merchandise sales for years. I'd say Roger wants to walk a fine line: not thugs, but not choir boys, either. And big personalities sell. My guess is that this high-profile season of Hard Knocks is a big win for the league.

Personally, I think this is sort of a "have your cake and eat it" sort of thing. The league wants Tony Dungys and it wants Rex Ryans: it just varies from owner to owner.

 

[chicowalker]

Nobody expects teams to tip toe through the show, but an effort could be made to clean the language up a bit.

I for one really dont care how many times Ryan says F this and F that. I can tell you this that if he talked that way around here in a public place, someone would tell him to shut up and if he persisted with his mouth it would closed for him.

He wasn't in a public place. It's training camp -- practices, team meetings, etc. The cameras should be zero concern to him, the staff or the players.

 

[chicowalker]

... from what I hear not that great of a father,...

I don't know what you've heard or where you've heard it, but that's bs

 

[efin98]

Ah, but "they" don't have much control anymore.

If you think that the official programming slot and official site registration are real factors, you're thinking like a 20th-century-bred grownup. Do what any kid would do -- what EVERY young Jets fan will do. Just type "hard knocks" into YouTube to find all the profanity-laden episodes you'd like.

Note that this is not an argument for censorship. It's just an argument that the 10-pm slot doesn't mean much.

Maybe I am thinking early 2000s but HBO did their part to keep it as far away as they could without screwing their paying customers who are their target audience.

 

[Tunescribe]

Nobody expects teams to tip toe through the show, but an effort could be made to clean the language up a bit.

I for one really dont care how many times Ryan says F this and F that. I can tell you this that if he talked that way around here in a public place, someone would tell him to shut up and if he persisted with his mouth it would closed for him.

The thing about Wrecks is he's kind of a low-brow blue-collar type. He uses profanity habitually in the course of normal conversation, not only when he's upset. I have a friend who talks like that and I get tired of it pretty quick, to the point where I openly mock him just to show how ignorant he sounds. Cussing has its place in a fit of anger or to drive a point home. But using it so casually the way Wrecks does is just crude, stupid and unnecessary. I'm no Dungy fan, but I kind of see his point with this. NFL head coaches should be held to a classier standard of behavior as ambassadors of the pro game.

 

[ausbacker]

I was always a good kid when I was online unsupervised. Only softcore porn for me back then. :bricks:

Victoria's Secret catalogues and a handful of tissues ey Kontra. Back when nipple slips were the highlight of your day.

 

[Joker]

NFL head coaches should be held to a classier standard of behavior as ambassadors of the pro game.

the NEW face of Jetdell's NFL.....

 

[patchick]

Wherevera kid can find Hard Knocks, he can find a lot worse than Hard Knocks.

But we're not talking about corrupting young minds. We're talking about corrupting the image of the NFL. Whatever "a lot worse" is out there, it doesn't have an official league seal on it. It doesn't run on NFL.com like Hard Knocks. For better or worse, the show is helping make Rex Ryan the face of the league. (Personal tastes aside, I rather expect it's for the better.)

 

[resdubwhite]

Back when nipple slips were the highlight of your day.

Still are for some of us.

 

[Mike the Brit]

Rex Ryan isn't from a hard, blue-collar background -- he's a man whose father earned a huge salary who's trying to project an image of being a tough guy. Dungy (who should certainly keep his thoughts to himself) has nothing to prove -- he played in the NFL. BB is too honest and couldn't care less. Ryan is pathetic.

 

[Triumph]

Rex Ryan isn't from a hard, blue-collar background -- he's a man whose father earned a huge salary who's trying to project an image of being a tough guy. Dungy (who should certainly keep his thoughts to himself) has nothing to prove -- he played in the NFL. BB is too honest and couldn't care less. Ryan is pathetic.

I really think Ryan has mental problems.

Constantly, drawing attention to himself as being good, bickering with Channing Crowder that he is tougher than him, the crying after he thought the Jets had missed the post season and now, this FU bravado act.