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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.If BB wants to fill his quota for bipolar WRs who lack the ability to separate and get deep, then either drop the ball or quickly run out of bounds to have a pitiful YAC stat, then yes, Brandon Lloyd is exactly the type of guy for that job, regardless of how many passes he caught, didn't catch or didn't gain YAC for last year.
Oh the horror, I hate moving the chains
Yet again, which receivers that are available are going to come in and be more productive?
Dude's a JAG. This team is better off trying to develop a younger WR. Even if he's only 80% of Lloyd, you have the potential of him surpassing him next year.
Hmmm, and I always thought the best players were the ones who play? Yes, I love your idea of letting someone who isn't as good play because they might be better down the road
Actually while I have sung Lloyds praises a couple of times here, a poster on this forum did an extremely thorough breakdown of Lloyd's last year. It showed his targets and reception percentage, and YAC etc. The data showed that Lloyd was a lot worse than he looked and worse than what his stats showed especially when compared to his counterparts.
I believe that the bottom line was that he got a lot of targets and really diddnt do anything that anyone else couldn't have done with the opportunities. I would take him back for familiarity sake as a possession guy but we already know he is a headcase and we dont need it.
Considering his production you would have to think that it is a big enough of an issue.
Actually while I have sung Lloyds praises a couple of times here, a poster on this forum did an extremely thorough breakdown of Lloyd's last year. It showed his targets and reception percentage, and YAC etc. The data showed that Lloyd was a lot worse than he looked and worse than what his stats showed especially when compared to his counterparts.
I believe that the bottom line was that he got a lot of targets and really diddnt do anything that anyone else couldn't have done with the opportunities. I would take him back for familiarity sake as a possession guy but we already know he is a headcase and we dont need it.
How many of those targets were Brady throwing the ball away and were attributed to Lloyd because he was the outside receiver on that side? How many were simply bad throws by Brady? Be careful when you look at statistics, they seldom provide context.
As for anyone else being able to do what Lloyd did, how many receivers have we brought in that haven't been able to do what Lloyd did? Ocho, Taylor Price, Tiquan Underwood, Torry Holt, Joey Galloway, etc
They haven't done what Lloyd did because they couldnt.
Keep in mind that last season was Lloyd's first with Brady, it usually takes receivers some time to develop really good chemistry with their QB, this should be taken into account when judging Lloyd.
Hmmm, and I always thought the best players were the ones who play? Yes, I love your idea of letting someone who isn't as good play because they might be better down the road
After this season, people on this board will be more appreciative of a #3/#4 receiving option that caught 74 passes and 911 yards.
Outside of Amendola, Hernandez and Gronkowski we'll be lucky to have anybody else with more than 500 yards receiving.
We do it all the time. We just did it with Wes Welker.
Otherwise you'll never have younger players.
We do it all the time. We just did it with Wes Welker.
Otherwise you'll never have younger players.
I'm not sure that pointing to one really stupid decision in order to defend other decisions as smart ones is the way to go.
I basically just copied the stats from Ian, who posted a story on the main page. It showed a breakdown of L, middle, and R attempts; along with a completion percentage and # of overall attempts etc. I agree fully that it definitely showed a weakness that needed to be addressed. A lot of posters keep bringing up the fact that he made 70+ catches, but I don't see that much difference to Deion Branch's stats the year before. The real only difference being that Brandon Llyod was targeted 130 times last year:
51 catches 702 yds 13.8 ave 5 TD's (Branch 2011)
74 catches 911 yds 12.3 ave 4 TD's (Llyod 2012)
That said, I'd still consider Llyod for a depth spot or at the very least--insurance as a WR3 or WR4. I wouldn't mind him at all taking over Branch's role that we've seen in the past since he has the familiarity with the scheme and did have some rapport with Brady. As I said earlier, my main concern and potential 'dealbreaker' to this getting done would be how much they expect Llyod to contribute + obvious value/compensation. Brandon Llyod may very well have bigger ideas for himself as someone's WR2 again, who knows?
Then there's the whispers of him being a bit of a pain and hard to manage etc, so we really don't know how much/little that may come into play either, although one would think that they'd be okay with it for the right price since they reportedly attempted to retain him for lesser pay.