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I see nothing thus far in the season to make me reconsider either of those statements.
the pitching sucks...i blame the front office for not getting better pitchers in the off season. alls we have is retreads that we hope pan out.
It's not Valentine's fault that the Pitching staff put together by Epstein and Cherrington are next to useless.the pitching sucks...i blame the front office for not getting better pitchers in the off season. alls we have is retreads that we hope pan out.
It's not Valentine's fault that the Pitching staff put together by Epstein and Cherrington are next to useless.
i dont know about anybody else. but i cant get over the fact that somebody in the front office leaked that story about franconna taking pain meds. that's about as low as you can go. it makes me sick every time i think about it. franconna did nothing but take responsibility for just about everything even when he didn't have to. and they treat him like dog crap. he was the best manager they ever had and he deserved to be treated so much better than that. its a wonder anybody would want to come play for henry and crew.
I know, I was reinforcing that point. Not that I think highly of the way he's organised the pitching staff or bull pen, but pitching has been an issue for some time with the Red Sox and they really haven't brought in anyone of substantial quality to fix it.i know, thats what i said.
When did Red Sox panic day get moved all the way up to Easter?
What's next? Will we start swooning over Spring Training losses?
You're talking about trading two players who, at the current moment, would barely be able to fetch a bag of balls.Dice K, Papi and Jenks salaries are off the table at the end of the year.
Trade Beckett (if he can put 2 or 3 useful starts together).
Youk maybe done (he looks to be very brittle out there.)
Write off 2012 and see what we can get for these two guys.
Then use the dollars in 2013 to get some pitching in and give Ells a massive contract (That he totally deserves BTW).
Revising this team down to about 75-80 wins
When did Red Sox panic day get moved all the way up to Easter?
What's next? Will we start swooning over Spring Training losses?
You're talking about trading two players who, at the current moment, would barely be able to fetch a bag of balls.
If you really wanted to write off 2012, then the guy to trade would be Ellsbury. HIs value will never be higher than it is at this moment and he is not going to be worth the obscene amount of dollars he will command as an unrestricted free agent. And your idea to "give him a massive contract" simply will not fly. Ellsbury/Boras are headed towards free agency and there's not a thing you can do to stop that.
Dice K, Papi and Jenks salaries are off the table at the end of the year.
Trade Beckett (if he can put 2 or 3 useful starts together).
Youk maybe done (he looks to be very brittle out there.)
Write off 2012 and see what we can get for these two guys.
Then use the dollars in 2013 to get some pitching in and give Ells a massive contract (That he totally deserves BTW).
Revising this team down to about 75-80 wins
OT: On what basis does Ellsbury "totally deserve" a massive contract? He's played 3 full seasons, of which 1 was a superb year. I'd like to see a guy at least put together back-to-back good years before the team makes a 9-figure commitment (or whatever you deem massive).
(I'd like to see Ellsbury stay w/the Sox past 2013, btw. But just like the fanbase got overly down on him when he had broken ribs, I think people -- many of whom are probably the same people -- are now overly high on him. I guess that's the way of many team's fanbases, though, particularly the Sox?)
Outisde of September last year Beckett had a fantastic 2011.You're talking about trading two players who, at the current moment, would barely be able to fetch a bag of balls.
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I would imagine the Crawford contract is ball park figure for Ellsbury.
FWIW. other than the injuries in 2010 I think Ellsbury has been a great player with the team. IF he replicates 2011 numbers this year i think he'll get huge money.
Will the club move on from him if as I believe they have another option on him for 2013?
I dunno.