VJCPatriot
Pro Bowl Player
- Joined
- Apr 28, 2006
- Messages
- 16,798
- Reaction score
- 5,453
Registered Members experience this forum ad and noise-free.
CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.Like I said before, this deal only makes sense if you are clearing the cap space to sign a stud #1 WR like Hopkins.
Instead the Patriots are doing NOTHING with that money and are sitting on 17m+ in cap space.
What an awful free agency period this has been!!
What is important is surrounding your young QB who showed promise with some actual talent. Besides his rookie year only thing Bill has done since then is give Mac an actual OC. Bill has thrown crap at the wall at T to see if anything sticks, scrubs at WR and oh yeah made his DC buddy an OC which set Mac back. But no please preach to the rest of us how losing out on Hopkins was no biggy.The cap space rolls over to next year. It is not like the Pats lose it. Let's see what happens, and then ***** and moan if we don't make the playoffs in 2023. Hint: we are not winning the SB this year, so Hopkins and spending cap space are really not that important right now. Let's see if the 1st to 4th year players on rookie contracts can surprise and get us to the playoffs. If so, then we can bolster the team with the cap space going forward.
What is important is surrounding your young QB who showed promise with some actual talent. Besides his rookie year only thing Bill has done since then is give Mac an actual OC. Bill has thrown crap at the wall at T to see if anything sticks, scrubs at WR and oh yeah made his DC buddy an OC which set Mac back. But no please preach to the rest of us how losing out on Hopkins was no biggy.
God forbid Mac needing more help than Mahomes.Never said it was no biggie, I said we do not lose the cap space and can spend it next year on another player. Read my post.
If you want to hold Mac's wee wee because he can not succeed without "weapons", please proceed. Mahomes won a SB with JJSS but Mac needs a lot more (a #1), while you hold his wee wee, in order to win a post season playoff game. Mac has plenty to shine in Y3. Hopkins would have been nice but we can still survive and win a playoff game if Mac is any good.
God forbid Mac needing more help than Mahomes.
Like the way we weren't supposed to complain when we saw the impending train wreck of choosing to name Matt Patricia the OC when he had zero experience in that role and to name a career ST coach in Joe Judge to be the QB whisperer for Mac Jones? Like the way we weren't supposed to notice the Patriots were dogshit in preseason, veterans were openly voicing doubts and complaints about the offense, and it never got any better as the season progressed?The cap space rolls over to next year. It is not like the Pats lose it. Let's see what happens, and then ***** and moan if we don't make the playoffs in 2023. Hint: we are not winning the SB this year, so Hopkins and spending cap space are really not that important right now. Let's see if the 1st to 4th year players on rookie contracts can surprise and get us to the playoffs. If so, then we can bolster the team with the cap space going forward.
They weren’t winning a SB with or without Hop this year. I wanted Hop to compete for the division, to maximize Macs potential to see what he looks like with an actual WR 1. Guess I’m asking for too muchMac only has to win a playoff game with JJSS. Mahomes won a SB with JJSS. Slight difference. If Mac can't win a playoff game, that says a lot. We don't need Hopkins to figure that out. With or without Hopkins, winning a SB this year is a HUGE stretch.
I've seen Mac Jones play and it's safe to say that he's the 4th best QB in the division currently. It's unrealistic to expect him to win much without being gifted some superior weapons because he's not the type to turn a bang average WR into a world beater. He's just not that guy. And to be fair only a select few QBs are 'that guy'. We had the privilege of watching one of those for many years but we gotta work with who we've got at QB right now.They weren’t winning a SB with or without Hop this year. I wanted Hop to compete for the division, to maximize Macs potential to see what he looks like with an actual WR 1. Guess I’m asking for too much
They weren’t winning a SB with or without Hop this year. I wanted Hop to compete for the division, to maximize Macs potential to see what he looks like with an actual WR 1. Guess I’m asking for too much
Totally agree, I just don’t see an issue with helping a QB that needs weapons. He’s not Brady, he’s not Mahomes and prob will never be. But does that justify not surrounding him with players that will help take his game to the next level? No.I've seen Mac Jones play and it's safe to say that he's the 4th best QB in the division currently. It's unrealistic to expect him to win much without being gifted some superior weapons because he's not the type to turn a bang average WR into a world beater. He's just not that guy. And to be fair only a select few QBs are 'that guy'. We had the privilege of watching one of those for many years but we gotta work with who we've got at QB right now.
It seems like teams could have found a way to get him if they really wanted him. There were limited teams with cap space, but still only two teams were really linked to him. Seems odd, especially if he is the difference maker that people were saying he is. You could be right though; I'm just surprised it was really only the Titans and Pats that seemed serious.Why does everyone say "wonder why no one was interested in Hopkins.". Have you seen the list of teams remaining cap space? It's rare that a player like this becomes a FA after the draft.
Both Teams WR situations was pretty weak though Tennessee's have more upside with Treylon Burks...D-Hop should really help him reach his potential.It seems like teams could have found a way to get him if they really wanted him. There were limited teams with cap space, but still only two teams were really linked to him. Seems odd, especially if he is the difference maker that people were saying he is. You could be right though; I'm just surprised it was really only the Titans and Pats that seemed serious.
Miguel estimates they will need 16 mill in seasonLike I said before, this deal only makes sense if you are clearing the cap space to sign a stud #1 WR like Hopkins.
Instead the Patriots are doing NOTHING with that money and are sitting on 17m+ in cap space.
What an awful free agency period this has been!!
Just look what Diggs did to Allen’s career..
Somehow the titans with only 7 million in cap space could sign him. Only the patriots need 16 million in season and can never sign top talent?Miguel estimates they will need 16 mill in season
When was the last time Patriots won a playoff game?Just look at what Hill did to Tua's career. Wait! Miami has not won a playoff game since trading for Hill. Oh well, we can keep cherry picking the stats and hirings we like to prove a point we like. Look at what J Jefferson did to Cousins career. Wait! The Vikings have not won a playoff games since Jefferson was drafted.
We can go back and forth cherry picking all day. Even change our usernames to CrawhammerJr and WozzyJr?