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  1. SVN

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    Says we did what we wanted to do in every way...just made 2 -3 less plays and mistakes which caused the game. Very rarely he says we did everything we could well and came up short...
    Also says the colts ran the pick plays a lot.
    iam hoping someone asks him about the clock at the end of the half where a grand 1 sec ran off from 20-19 on the harrison catch
     
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    I was wondering why those pick plays weren't called. From my understanding of the definition of a pick, it seemed pretty obvious.

    Not only that, but the Colt doing the pick-ing extended his arms into the Pats defender which I thought was not allowed before the pass.
     
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    Pats ran them too. There was a blatent one late in the game when the Colts only had 2 defenders covering 2 receivers and a receiver started blocking before the pass was thrown.

    Seems to me they don't call that carp anymore.
     
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    I don't remember that, I know the reason the screen to Moss got blownup was because Welker had to wait till Moss caught it before he could block. Ask Troy Brown if they ever call the wideout for extending his arms, rememer the AFC championship game in '06 they do call it.
     
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    The way I understand it, an illegal pick is when the offensive player rubs the defender. If the two offensive players cross their paths, causing the defenders to run into each other, it's legal. Did the Colts actually make contact with the NE defenders??

    Edit: Why would you be worried about the clock if the half ended on the penalty? Had there been no infraction, my guess is that the officials would have reviewed the play, timed it, and put the appropriate number of seconds back on the clock. It was moot at that point.
     
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    The problem is that Harrison did not get out of bounds, so stopping the clock to figure out how much time was left (A) would have benefitted the Colts, and (B) it's not clear that, had they stopped the clock, there wouldn't have been enough time left for the Colts to run that play anyways.
     
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    *I understand that Harrison did not get out of bounds
    *Manning steps up, grounds the ball
    *Infraction
    *Half Over

    NOW, had their NOT been the infraction, the clock STILL would have stopped. Play clock restarts, out trots the FG unit. BUT, before that takes place, the refs would have seen or been made aware of the clock NOT starting on the previous play, they would have reviewed, and put the appropriate time back on the clock. The fact that they did a 10 second run off tells us that they determined there was AT BEST, only 10 seconds left. Their job ended there, no need to spend any more time with it, it would have been pointless.
     
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    They ran this type of pick all night. I think its just a well designed play.

    The DID run an illegal pick at least once - Thomas was covering the RB out of the backfield, as he came across the middle of the field. He was all over him (in a good way), when Wayne came across from the other direction, and picked Thomas off - allowing the RB to make the catch for 9 or so yards. Wayne went right for Thomas, too - you could see him square up like a LB would, look right at him, and step into his path. Just before crashing into Thomas, he pulled off a bit, and just nicked him in the arm/shoulder, but it was plenty enough for him to lose his position on the RB and allow the catch.

    I was going insane on the TV - my wife had to tell me to quiet down before I woke the kids :)
     
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    1st or 2nd half? Just wondering, I'll take a look.
     
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    Crap, you're expecting me to remember? ;)

    I think it was early in the 3rd. Let me look at the box score - it was a 8-10 yard gain to the RB (Addai I think) with Thomas in coverage.

    Edit: I think this is it (memory is hazy) (2nd Q):

    2-10-IND 20 (10:14) (Shotgun) 18-P.Manning pass short left to 29-J.Addai pushed ob at IND 30 for 10 yards (96-A.Thomas).
     
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    I'll take a look. Meanwhile, on our first possession, 3rd down, Harrison does a short crossing route. Gets no separation from Wheatly. Lo and behold, he's grabbing Harrison's jersey just above the belt line, on his side. Ticky tack? I don't know, I think it allowed Wheatly to keep Marvin close, and ultimately break up the play. On a third down, which lead to the punt.
     
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