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Lance Armstrong????? for real?
 
He would have been lucky to make the Practice squad, where the Greatest coach of all time would have cut him.

What is it with you "Tiger Woods is so awesome it's beyond comprehension" guys? He swings a tailor made stainless steel club at an unmoving object sitting on a tailored made stand with no time limit and no-one trying to stop him.

What an incredible "athlete"! Are you $hitin" me? Seriously?

Let me guess....you're under 20 years old?
 
He would have been lucky to make the Practice squad, where the Greatest coach of all time would have cut him.

What is it with you "Tiger Woods is so awesome it's beyond comprehension" guys? He swings a tailor made stainless steel club at an unmoving object sitting on a tailored made stand with no time limit and no-one trying to stop him.

What an incredible "athlete"! Are you $hitin" me? Seriously?

Guess who's back??????

Tiger's coming to whoop OhExalted1's ass. You better run
 
Cut down on that sig, please
 
Had Tiger Woods chosen another sport, I'd bet the house he would have made it to the highest level. You can bet that none of us here on this forum is as dedicated to whatever we do for a living as Tiger is.
I doubt that.

Believing someone can succeed and them actually succeeding in another sport, at the top level, are very different considerations.
 
Becuase they're no longer stars and it's a leisure activity they enjoy in retirement when they no longer have to rigorously train to acheive the peak level of the athletic field where they excelled.

Is this really that difficult for people to understand?

Golf is NOT a sport. Plain and simple. Fun game....NOT a sport.

I agree but unfortunately, Dictionary.com does not agree.

I actually remember looking up 'sport' and 'game' many years ago to determine which described golf. At that time their was no mention of golf or any sport in either definition. At the time golf was leaning toward a game. It reminds me of going to Wikipedia and seeing Roger Goodell's employment history change.

Oh, I forgot. When I see hunting and fishing listed as sports, then the whole list is questionable. Someone please explain to me how hunting and fishing are competitive and listed as sport.
 
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Some comments on the Comments

1. Another brilliant click creator brought to us by the "click creator" leader of the media.

2. I will always feel its tougher to win a championship in football than any other team sport for this reason. Its one and done. In the rest of the sports you have the added advantage of a series of games to reach each level. Because of that, the best team will usually win. If the Giants had had to win 2 of 3 games vs the Pats, their 2 championships would never have happened.

3 So while in sports like Basketball or baseball or hockey, the "best" team is more likely to wind up champion, because of the no margin of error you get from the NFL playoffs, it is HARDER to become an NFL champion than any other. JMHO

4. Any list that has Peyton Manning with 20 players of Tom Brady has proven itself worthless in my mind.
Manning will hold almost all the individual records for his position, but football is the ultimate team game, and QB is the ultimate leadership position. The fact is, when you compare Manning/Brady for how they performed against the best competition and biggest pressure (the playoffs), they aren't even in the same zip code. You can make a better case for Joe Flacco to be ahead of PManning.

5. So while to can argue all you want about who should be in the top 5, the fact that Manning is considered to be with 20 of Brady, diminishes him far more than the fact 3 other guys were put ahead of him

6. Micheal Phelps deserves to be #1, and I don't understand how anyone else is eve close

7. Micheal Jordan and Bill Russell are the 2 most impactful individuals ever to play a team sport and only Magic Johnson and Larry are even close, but neither are on the same level.

8. ESPN is a complete fraud as a sport journalistic operation, but they are among the best media marketers in the world. I hate them, but you have to give props when they are deserved.\

9. I take pride in the fact I didn't give them a click to learn about this topic.

1 & 9. I don't click on anything. Even here I limit my clicks to the articles provided by Ian, Steve and Miguel, although I'm not a big cap guy.

3. Plus NFL players get one chance a year to make it to and win the title.

2, 4 & 5. I never liked any Manning because of Archie's influence. The idea that they chose where they wanted to play bothered me, same as Elway when he pulled the same crap.

6. I think the amount of swimming medals and the amount of golf tournaments distorts the numbers. As I mentioned earlier in this thread, give Tom Brady the same amount of chances as Phelps or Woods get and he might be better.

7. Bill Russell is the greatest athlete of all time. His record of winning from college, to the Olympics and the NBA is out of the reach of any athlete playing any sport today.

8 & 9. I remember thinking at the time that nobody would watch a 24 hour sports program. Boy was I wrong, but I still don't watch.
 
Lolol, stop being a semi-troll dude and show some respect for your elders

*brings out golf club to whack exhalted1 over the head*
 
BTW nothing against Crosby, he is the best NHL player of this generation, but the fact ESPN puts any player from a sport they generally ignored for a decade on a list is crap.

Messi should be higher, while Cristiano Ronaldo and Zidane should have made their way on the list. As should have Rafa Nadal and even an MMA fighter like a Georges St. Pierre or Jon Jones.
If an MMA fighter, it would be Anderson Silva.
 
Pretty hard to argue with MJ and Tiger being on the list with Six Titles and 14 Majors, but I'd put Brady above each of them and eventually he will be there...it was too much for ESPN to move him from nowhere to #1.

James doesn't belong in their company yet. I agree with those who would move Phelps way up. I don't agree with putting Lance up there. Not so much that he cheated in a sport where everybody cheated, but just for the classless way he handled it.
 
If I had to rank them...

1) Tom Brady
2) Kobe Bryant
3) Ronaldo
4) Usain Bolt
5) Serena Williams
6) Shaquille O'Neal
7) Roger Federer
8) Tiger Woods
9) Michael Phelps
10) Tim Duncan
11) Dominik Hasek
12) Zinedine Zidane
13) Lisa Leslie
14) LeBron James
15) Lionel Messi
16) Anderson Silva
17) Michael Jordan
18) Peyton Manning
19) Martin Brodeur
20) Derek Jeter

HM: Diana Taurasi, Floyd Mayweather Jr, Cristiano Ronaldo, Rafael Nadal, Michael Johnson, Ed Reed, Ladainian Tomlinson, Randy Moss, Nik Lidstrom, Manny Pacquiao, Sheryl Swoopes, Annika Sorenstam, Misty May Treanor and Kerri Walsh, Albert Pujols, Pavel Datsyuk, Alex Rodriguez, Justine Henin, Mariano Rivera, Venus Williams, Jerry Rice, Mario Lemieux, Sidney Crosby, Alex Ovechkin

My top 5 in the last 30 years would be Rice, Jordan, Gretzky, Brady, and Lemieux.

Hermann "The Herminator" Maier should be in the top ten. He was the greatest alpine skier of this era, and a real bad ass. http://www.sports-reference.com/olympics/athletes/ma/hermann-maier-1.html
 
Golf is not an athletic sport. It's a game. Golf will be included in the 2016 Olympics for the first time since 1904. Why? It will draw in the overweight middle-aged white American slacker TV audience.

I'll be tuning into the female beach volley-ball games in Rio myself, but to each his own.:)

Golf is a game that can also be played like an "athletic sport."

Most of us play it like a game, but to play it today at the highest levels, you have to be an athlete and play it like a sport. 25 years ago, you could win tournaments without being in great shape or very athletic; today that happens only very rarely and never consistently, because, now, the competition is just too great to allow for that...even for a lot of Club championships. John Daly, who wasted most of his talent because he was, well, "wasted," won the PGA Championship half in the bag in 1991 and won the Open Championship in 1995...20 years ago. But, that's not happening any more. It's a dogfight to make a good College team and then a struggle to get on the Web.com tour or the Asian Tour, let alone the PGA or European tour.

Baseball, though never to the extreme of golf, used to be a game which one could play without being in very good shape. If you had awesome hand-eye coordination and had a lot of upper body strength, you could grab a smoke between innings and they'd stick you in left or right field and hope the Center fielder had the range to make up for what you couldn't cover. If you hit the ball through the infield, you could amble to first base; if you could hit it in the gap, you'd get a lot of stand up doubles that didn't require a lot of speed and if you had real power, you only had to trot around the bases. If you had a strong arm and good location, you could pitch and still be way overweight and also grab a smoke between innings. With rare exceptions, those days, too, are gone.
 
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