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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.Bottom line, what happened was sad and unfortunate, but on the plus side, both sides will do well without the other. I wish him well in Denver, except that week in November when he comes to Foxboro. On that night I'll wish him just good health
So Welker, gauging the market on his own, even though he had an agent, decided to leave his home, Brady, his friends etc to get basically the same money somewhere else.
I haven't heard many people talk about the third offer from supposedly the Tennessee Titans. From what I read the offer was better than NE and Denver. I wonder if Welker's agent took the Titans offer back to NE and asked them to match? NE wasn't willing to match the offer and moved on to DA. Either way Welker and his agent didn't do a good job of estimating his value on the open market.
Anyone want to dispute that this is an agent screwing his client?
By rolling the dice and being wrong, Welker ends up with no more money, a moving van, left on his doorstep with a suitcase while the agent blows smoke up the ass of some other naive would be superstar.
I've been making that point now for 2 days. Ivan would have be apoplectic if anyone ever even suggested that Welker take a 2 year $12MM deal during all the Welker threads the last 2 month. He would have called it "past insulting". But Ivan wasn't alone. I don't think there was a poster here that thought $6MM/yr on a short term deal was Welker's market. About the only ones who actually guaged it correctly were the PatsTo be fair, did anyone think Welker was only going to get 6 mill a year?
Because he didn't want to be here anymore. Simple as that.I'm still kinda confused, based on Reiss' explanation, if the New England deal was basically the same, why didn't he take it? Was it because Denver's was more of a sure thing as in he didn't have to hit incentives?
He didn't because he thought once he got to FA, the offers would be significantly higher AND longer. It wasn't until he got there that he found that the Pats were right.I'm still kinda confused, based on Reiss' explanation, if the New England deal was basically the same, why didn't he take it? Was it because Denver's was more of a sure thing as in he didn't have to hit incentives?
I'm still kinda confused, based on Reiss' explanation, if the New England deal was basically the same, why didn't he take it? Was it because Denver's was more of a sure thing as in he didn't have to hit incentives?
Yet despite this reality, we will spend the next season constantly being told that the mean and arrogant Patriots tried to short change poor Wes who did nothing but do his job well. And then got just what they deserved when he went to Denver.
Yet despite this reality, we will spend the next season constantly being told that the mean and arrogant Patriots tried to short change poor Wes who did nothing but do his job well. And then got just what they deserved when he went to Denver.
Heard today, on the same Felger and Mazz show:
"If it takes giving Wes a million or two more to lock him in, just do it. If you really want the player don't let money stand in the way."
and
"Wow. Arrington got 4 years, $4 million per season? The Pats really overpaid."
Two thoughts:
1- I'd love to watch these guys run an NFL team... into the ground.
2- Of the above two statements, how can you crucify the Pats one minute for not overpaying, then mock them for... overpaying? The answer is- whichever argument allows you to keep bashing the team at the given moment.
Random question:
If the Patriots believed he was worth 2/10 after he had a year in which he played as well as could be hoped for and one in which they decided to pay him 9.5m.
So why not let him hit free agency last year, offer 3 / 18, and allowed him to shop around and either ended up cutting him (since 9.5 is more than they value a slot) or have had him sign at a decent rate (since 6 is what they value a slot)
What also leads credence to your synopsis is that isn't that exactly what Bob Kraft has been saying ... that it takes 2 intelligent sides? Kraft told us the bad way it would happen before it actually did.