Rob Ryan FIREDDDDDDDDDDD

[fourhour]

Mangini: Let's go to KFC for a bucket of extra crispy -whoever still has a job is paying, okay?

Post Of The Day for me, thank you!

 

[Hardboiled]

I've never seen an assistant coach grandstand on the sidelines like that fat doofus.

No kidding. When the Cowboys were in Foxboro, he walked out and got some flak from the crowd, but then started jawing back - making a production of it. Did the same thing after half time. Dude, you're a coordinator. Always a big show.

 

[sly24]

Well I was expecting a bunch of stuff to go down in Dallas, but not this..

 

[TheBeers]

"I inherited a team that was 31st in the league in defense and made them better," Ryan told ESPNDallas.com's Tim MacMahon. "I (expletive) made them a hell of a lot better. I'll be out of work for like five minutes."

Proof that all Ryans think alike (and cant help but tell everyone)...

 

[PatsWSB47]

Mangini: Let's go to KFC for a bucket of extra crispy -whoever still has a job is paying, okay?

Larry, Curley and Moe

 

[Gwedd]

Seems to me that Jerry Jones has the "Al Davis Replacement" gig all sewn up. He's getting that shrunken, waxy-looking pallor that Al had, and he's starting to do that megalomaniac owner thing that killed Oakland.

You go, Jerry!

 

[unoriginal]

Seems to me that Jerry Jones has the "Al Davis Replacement" gig all sewn up. He's getting that shrunken, waxy-looking pallor that Al had, and he's starting to do that megalomaniac owner thing

Personally I wonder if, while firing somebody, Jerry Jones says things like "You have disappointed me for the last time" and "Now you will learn the true price of failure."

 

[DocHoliday]

People rag on Jerry Jones but his war against the NFL to get the right to individually market your own team in your own market was one of the most important steps in making the NFL the success it is today.

 

[Gwedd]

People rag on Jerry Jones but his war against the NFL to get the right to individually market your own team in your own market was one of the most important steps in making the NFL the success it is today.

True enough, and I do respect him. Having said that, it just seems that the past few years he's been getting more weird with each passing season.

But, it's his team, so bless his heart.

 

[ausbacker]

People rag on Jerry Jones but his war against the NFL to get the right to individually market your own team in your own market was one of the most important steps in making the NFL the success it is today.

Jerry Jones the businessman should be separated from Jerry Jones the Cowboys GM. As a businessman he's a shrewd operator, as the Cowboys GM he's ******ed.

Jimmie Johnson was right when he first said it; Jones should leave football decisions to football people.

 

[Joker]

Personally I wonder if, while firing somebody, Jerry Jones says things like "You have disappointed me for the last time" and "Now you will learn the true price of failure."

well...you can stop wondering because I KNOW what he says...

 

[NormZauchin]

Jerry Jones the businessman should be separated from Jerry Jones the Cowboys GM. As a businessman he's a shrewd operator, as the Cowboys GM he's ******ed.

Jimmie Johnson was right when he first said it; Jones should leave football decisions to football people.

From the Onion:

DALLAS—Claiming he wanted to “go get himself” a closer look at the action, Cowboys owner Jerry Jones wandered out onto the field during his team’s game against the Philadelphia Eagles Sunday, joining huddles, advising players, and berating officials.

“We’ve gotten pretty used to Jerry always being around during team meetings or postgame showers,” said quarterback Tony Romo, who twice was helped up off the ground by a congratulatory Jones. “But I have to say, having him stand next to me, talking my ear off, when I was back in the shotgun waiting for the snap was definitely a new one.”

“It’s his team, though,” Romo added. “He can do what he wants.”

 

[RayClay]

Rob will get a job. He hasn't Peter Principled himself to his level of incompetence like his brother.

 

[SVN]

all the ryans talk the same and blame others

Rob Ryan fired by Dallas Cowboys after two seasons - NFL.com

"I inherited a team that was 31st in the league in defense and made them better," Ryan told ESPNDallas.com. "I (expletive) made them a hell of a lot better.

"I'll be out of work for like five minutes," Ryan went on. "I think I did a good job, and I think our staff did a good job on defense trying to compete with what we had at the end of the year. But the best job we did was when we were able to coach our starters."

 

[ausbacker]

all the ryans talk the same and blame others

Rob Ryan fired by Dallas Cowboys after two seasons - NFL.com

As much as the Ryans may be loud mouthed louts, he does have a point. The Cowboys injury list on D by the end of the season was ridiculous. They weren't a great unit but Romo and Garrett choked away another season in Dallas.

 

[Captain Cliche]

He'll get hired somewhere and the carousel of retreads will go round and round the good ole boy network.

For the life of me I don't know why people complain about BB developing young coaching talent from within....must have not read Moneyball.

 

[supafly]

As much as the Ryans may be loud mouthed louts, he does have a point. The Cowboys injury list on D by the end of the season was ridiculous. They weren't a great unit but Romo and Garrett choked away another season in Dallas.

I married into a family of Cowboy fans, my wife the biggest of all, so I've gotten to see a little too much of this insanely disfunctional franchise in the past few years. That makes me not only feel bad for her, but also makes me appreciate how good we've got it here. It couldn't be any more night/day than it is in NE vs the way it is in DAL.

I agree with your thoughts on J.Jones, as a matter of fact that's one of my wife's biggest gripes--that he needs to fire himself as GM and hire another individual. She can't stand him, and neither can a lot of Cboy fans. As a whole all Cboy fans would love to see him either sell the team or at least step down as GM. Many ask "what could have been" with Jimmy Johnson had Jones not chased him away.

I also agree with your injury assessment too, it was slim pickings by the end of the season. That said, the schemes developed by Ryan to try and stop RG3 were pathetic. When asked in the first matchup (Thanksgiving) what his intentions were scheme-wise, Rob Ryan claimed that they needed to "hit Griffen hard..." When I heard that I immediately laughed due to the sheer stupidity of it all. No talk of players keeping their assignments, spying on the QB, looking at option defenses, nothing...just "hitting him hard."

In the second matchup the Redskins ran for 300 yds, and DAL not only failed to try to adjust in any way, they literally kept doing the same thing over and over again, which in effect took their best playmaker in D.Ware directly out of the game on every play, and made him look pathetically stupid in the process when he kept getting burned one on one.

The game before they also gave up 600 yds of offense to the Saints, which is completely unacceptable considering that they have 2 pretty good CBs in Brandon Carr and Morris Claiborne (who we'd love to have here, probably either one, at least in a football sense, not IQ smarts).

I've actually been telling her the past few days that I thought Ryan was the one who did the poorest job of all, but that could certainly be argued on a team who trailed in EVERY single of their 16 games this season, and once again finished 8-8. They are doomed to mediocrity in my opinion, at least until Jones decides to step down as GM (not going to happen), or they bring in an old school disciplinarian who immediately instills new fundemental approaches.

 

[ausbacker]

I married into a family of Cowboy fans, my wife the biggest of all, so I've gotten to see a little too much of this insanely disfunctional franchise in the past few years. That makes me not only feel bad for her, but also makes me appreciate how good we've got it here. It couldn't be any more night/day than it is in NE vs the way it is in DAL.

I agree with your thoughts on J.Jones, as a matter of fact that's one of my wife's biggest gripes--that he needs to fire himself as GM and hire another individual. She can't stand him, and neither can a lot of Cboy fans. As a whole all Cboy fans would love to see him either sell the team or at least step down as GM. Many ask "what could have been" with Jimmy Johnson had Jones not chased him away.

I also agree with your injury assessment too, it was slim pickings by the end of the season. That said, the schemes developed by Ryan to try and stop RG3 were pathetic. When asked in the first matchup (Thanksgiving) what his intentions were scheme-wise, Rob Ryan claimed that they needed to "hit Griffen hard..." When I heard that I immediately laughed due to the sheer stupidity of it all. No talk of players keeping their assignments, spying on the QB, looking at option defenses, nothing...just "hitting him hard."

In the second matchup the Redskins ran for 300 yds, and DAL not only failed to try to adjust in any way, they literally kept doing the same thing over and over again, which in effect took their best playmaker in D.Ware directly out of the game on every play, and made him look pathetically stupid in the process when he kept getting burned one on one.

The game before they also gave up 600 yds of offense to the Saints, which is completely unacceptable considering that they have 2 pretty good CBs in Brandon Carr and Morris Claiborne (who we'd love to have here, probably either one, at least in a football sense, not IQ smarts).

I've actually been telling her the past few days that I thought Ryan was the one who did the poorest job of all, but that could certainly be argued on a team who trailed in EVERY single of their 16 games this season, and once again finished 8-8. They are doomed to mediocrity in my opinion, at least until Jones decides to step down as GM (not going to happen), or they bring in an old school disciplinarian who immediately instills new fundemental approaches.

You won't get much disagreement from me supa. In fact, I agree with almost everything you've put forward. I'm more in the corner that there are three bigger issues at hand with the Cowboys namely Jones, Garrett and Romo. We'll see if Jones has the marbles to do anything about the other two in the coming year.

 

[supafly]

For the life of me I don't know why people complain about BB developing young coaching talent from within....must have not read Moneyball.

Those who complain about BB developing from within probably don't know what they are talking about to be honest, because BB is a perfectionist and knows who is who and what is what better than any of the outside guys. We saw the example of complete failure with D.Capers in the 2008 or 2009 season, so that's one example.

With Belichick it's all about trust...if you can earn his trust and attention then he will give you more assignments and responsibilities, just the same way that he earned.

In the example of DC with Patricia, he decided not to put too much pressure on Patricia by naming him DC, even though he was the one heading the meetings and naming responsibilities on that side of the ball. In the next year he decided to give him the actual "title" of DC, once he got used to it and proved that he could handle the job and the attention that went with it.

Sound familiar? That is exactly the same thing that happened to Belichick while he was at NY. He was the one heading the meetings and responsibilities although he was not named DC officially due to concerns about the pressure and limelight until the second season. Belichick promotes within because those are the people that know the most about this team and those are the ones that he trusts. You can't argue with success.

 

[TomPatriot]

People rag on Jerry Jones but his war against the NFL to get the right to individually market your own team in your own market was one of the most important steps in making the NFL the success it is today.

Along with Bob Kraft, he was also instrumental in obtaining an agreement to end the NFL Lockout.