Curtis Martin honorary captain vs 49ers

[Ivan]

Good guy, great player, but I don't really get the Patriots honoring him. It seems like a classy but senseless move.

 

[upstater1]

Good guy, great player, but I don't really get the Patriots honoring him. It seems like a classy but senseless move.

If I were a Jets fan, I'd hate this. With a passion.

Since I'm a Patriots fan, I can't say Jets-fan angst gives me any pleasure in this.

He was here 3 years. I don't get it.

And yes, losing Mike Haynes was 10x worse than losing Curtis Martin. Of course.

 

[RayClay]

Martin went to the Jets because Parcells, when he got there, sent a "poison pill" offer to Martin's agent. It was an amount of money that the patriots couldn't match because of the financial position and so Martin went to the NYJ.

Blame rests with both Parcells, who was doing everything he could to get back at the Patriots & Bob Kraft, especially, and with New England's front office for mismanaging contracts, acquisitions, etc. Parcells was hoping to tear the heart out of New England, which he almost did.

We got lucky, and soon picked up Robert Edwards, who made everyone forget about Martin, until Edwards blew out his knee at a beach flag football game during Pro-Bowl week.

In the end, Parcells got some of the pain he was trying to put on the Patriots. We got Surf-Boy Pete Carrol for a coach, and between him and Grier and a couple malcontents in the locker room, this franchise almost imploded.

Thankfully, Robert Kraft got a handle on everything, and after a difficult first season with Coach Bill Belichick, it's been a pretty good ride for us. For the tuna? Not so much.

Karma, she is a beyatch.

As for Curtis Martin, I'm against this honorary captain appearance. It isn't personal. I have no bitterness towards him. But it doesn't feel right, and I'm worried it might confuse the Football Gods tonight, which would NOT be a good thing.

I'm aware of the poison pill, but if you look into it more (if that's still possible without paying for archived articles) I think you'll find he had an injury and there was doubt about signing him when they could have, before Parcells move.

EDIT: blog at his HOF induction

Just for old times’ sake, Patriots fans will raise a taunt to Pete Carroll, Bobby Grier and Andy Wasynczuk for calculating that an abdominal strain Martin suffered as a Patriot made him a chronic injury and salary-cap risk whose durability would quickly diminish. In his first seven seasons as a Jet, Martin missed one game, and rushed for 9,477 yards.

The day before the Jets played the Patriots in Foxboro in 2001, in what became the Mo Lewis Game, I wrote: “Considering what the Patriots were saying about him three years ago, it seems a miracle Curtis Martin is still breathing, never mind still cranking out 1,000-yard seasons.”

Martin at the time was jokingly asked how his abdominal strain felt.
“It’s great. I haven’t any problem with that,” he laughed.

http://blogs.lowellsun.com/pevearonthepatriots/2012/08/03/forget-curtis-martin-patriot/

 

[mayoclinic]

I just hope Stevan Ridley finds his inner Curtis Martin tonight.

 

[Ivan]

If I were a Jets fan, I'd hate this. With a passion.

Since I'm a Patriots fan, I can't say Jets-fan angst gives me any pleasure in this.

He was here 3 years. I don't get it.

And yes, losing Mike Haynes was 10x worse than losing Curtis Martin. Of course.

I would have Law and Milloy well ahead of him, and even the part timers like Ted Washington, who was only here for a short stint but was a big part of their championships. Hell, I'm not a big fan of Corey Dillon personally but he was huge in their dynasty years.

 

[Ivan]

Now that i think of it if they really wanted to have some fun with it what they should have done is honor:










Randy Moss



Now that would have really messed with his head. I can see him giving him big half time love to the team he was actually playing against.,

 

[patsfan13]

M Haynes was head and shoulders above any other Patriot who left even Ty Law.

 

[Triumph]

Martin went to the Jets because Parcells, when he got there, sent a "poison pill" offer to Martin's agent. It was an amount of money that the patriots couldn't match because of the financial position and so Martin went to the NYJ.

IIRC, that type of contract is now illegal in the NFL.

Blame rests with both Parcells, who was doing everything he could to get back at the Patriots & Bob Kraft, especially, and with New England's front office for mismanaging contracts, acquisitions, etc. Parcells was hoping to tear the heart out of New England, which he almost did.

Dont you mean Parcells?

Every team he left, the salary cap was always in shambles. Parcells passed out money like candy to "his guys." Law got a 50 mil contract and so did Milloy IIRC.

 

[Triumph]

I just hope Stevan Ridley finds his inner Curtis Martin tonight.

I hope not.

Martin disapeared in big games.

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

I just hope Stevan Ridley finds his inner Curtis Martin tonight.

If he walks off and defects to the Jets, I'm coming for you Mayo

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

M Haynes was head and shoulders above any other Patriot who left even Ty Law.

Absolutely. The guy was all world. Big, fast, smart CB.

As a cancer patient, he's a spokesperson in the campaign against prostrate (sic) cancer.

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

I hope not.

Martin disapeared in big games.

Benedict came up huge in the 1996 season playoff game at Sullivan Stadium in Jan 97 against the Squealers.

 

[Wax Frog]

This will likely be a very split decision between Pats fans and Martin coming back. On the upside none of the Jets fans will like it.

Curtis helped me to learn and embrace the love-the-man-hate-the-laundry approach. I do hope, though, that this affords a torch-passing opportunity for one "Riddler"

 

[Armchair Quarterback]

"Running back Curtis Martin went into the Pro Football Hall of Fame as a New York Jet, as one would expect, considering he played eight of his 11 seasons with them. But today, he returns to Foxborough as one of the Patriots' honorary captains. Martin's presence is tied to the Patriots' celebrating the 50th anniversary of the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Any disagreement that Martin is "The Greatest Patriot Who Got Away?"

Football players don't "go in" as a Jet or Patriot like they do in baseball. Players go in and all teams they played for are listed.

It's about the Hall of Fame, which kind of limits the the Patriots to 5 players, saying Law or Milloy are more worthy doesn't make much sense seeing they're not in the HOF. And didn't the both leave for the same reason Martin did.

The Pats were being run like a three ring circus, they low him lowballed him, and he followed his father figure coach for considerable more money. Really a no brainer. Your anger should not be directed at him but rather the incompetents running the team at the time.

And Haynes was the greatest who got away.

 

[Wax Frog]

I just hope Stevan Ridley finds his inner Curtis Martin tonight.

"Muh mayun" Mayo gets it!

 

[Patsrock]

IIRC, that type of contract is now illegal in the NFL.




Dont you mean Parcells?

Every team he left, the salary cap was always in shambles. Parcells passed out money like candy to "his guys." Law got a 50 mil contract and so did Milloy IIRC.

Not from Parcells.

And I don't understand the Martin thing but oh well. It is weird that with only 3 years here and is 4th all time in rushing yards in Pats history.

 

[patsfan13]

BTW the Sullivans letting Haynes leave after B Dreith in 76, and then Haynes wins rings with the Raiders........

Just more reasons to hate the Raiders and mock the Sullivan's.

 

[Tunescribe]

Martin hasn't been associated with the Patriots for years and years. He's a New Jersey Green Bean in terms of identity.

 

[BelizePats]

Do not like this one at all. Martin is a Jet. Period. By all accounts a good dude but he left us in a jam when he bolted to the Rats. There are far better former Patriots choices out there for this kind of thing.

 

[DefenseRules]

This an odd choice. Nothing against Martin. He seems like a good guy. I just think that there are other ex players who would have been a better choice.