CBA Approval Status

[BlueThunder]

Man THAT sucks bigtime...

I guess they don't work weekends on a deal worth over a BILLION dollars?

What's wrong with them..are they actually that ******ed?

 

[BradfordPatsFan]

The players motto has been "let us play.". But how bad do they really want it if they won't work through the weekend? Or is this a big f-you to the owners who, the players say, were trying to impose a timeline they were not comfortable with?

 

[strngplyr]

The players motto has been "let us play.". But how bad do they really want it if they won't work through the weekend? Or is this a big f-you to the owners who, the players say, were trying to impose a timeline they were not comfortable with?

If the imposed timeline prevents them from losing a preseason weekend and hundred's of millions of dollars they should probably be somewhat OK with it.

 

[patfanken]

This is NOTHING more than a ploy by the players to delay the start of training camp for as long as possible. That does 2 things. It keeps them away from the hard work that EVERY training camp is. AND makes it LESS likely that an rookie will be able to take one their jobs.

To bring Mrs. Kraft's name into it as an excuse for the delay is incredibly in poor taste and very cynical They would have been better off invoking God as the reason they don't want to go to camp.

back in my day (early 70's) training camp was much longer and had much more contact than they had under the last CBA. If what has been reported about what the teams can and cannot do is true, than the ****ification of the NFL is complete and the quality of the game is due for another substantial dip. Just another example of players wanting more for doing less.

I don't know about you guys, but its going to be a lot harder to root for guys who were either selfish, cynical or stupid enough to have this process go the way it has. Maybe the feeling will pass once the deal is finally settled, but right now, I would care if the owners told the players to GFT, and called off the entire season right now and we could all get on with our lives. I'm disgusted by players who have no idea how fortunate they are.

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

Let's see...

Decrease in work effort before season
Less strenuous practises in season
A double digit % increase in minimum salaries which were already way over what our President calls "rich"
Increased retirement and health benefits

Sounds like every other industry out there these days

But possibly NOT GOOD ENOUGH for the NFLPA*

 

[DaBruinz]

*sigh* The rhetoric coming from the players and the player reps is downright ridiculous..

"We didn't have enough time to review the proposal the owners voted on" Huh? The proposal the owners voted on is the one they negotiated with you.

It also amazes me how many of these players don't know what can and cannot be voted on before the UNION has re-certified. And this idea that voting cards have to be MAILED out is an absolute joke. Voting CAN be done electronically.

As for the garbage that their general counsel is tossing out that the proposal is a violation of federal labor laws is a joke. Seriously. Where does the NFLPA find these guys? Cracker Jax Boxes?

Like everyone else, the idea that they aren't meeting again until Monday is a joke. All it shows to me is that they really aren't in this to come to an amicable agreement and that they've just been yanking everyone's chains. If they stonewall any longer than Sunday, I hope the Judges slam them hard because they won't deserve anything else.

 

[strngplyr]

"We didn't have enough time to review the proposal the owners voted on" Huh? The proposal the owners voted on is the one they negotiated with you.

It also amazes me how many of these players don't know what can and cannot be voted on before the UNION has re-certified. And this idea that voting cards have to be MAILED out is an absolute joke. Voting CAN be done electronically.

These 2 things really irk me. They are refusing to vote electronically and want physical paper cards from what I heard on NFLN. How ridiculous.

 

[patchick]

They are refusing to vote electronically and want physical paper cards from what I heard on NFLN. How ridiculous.

Seriously? Do they also want their weekly pay in salt rather than direct deposit?

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

Seriously? Do they also want their weekly pay in salt rather than direct deposit?

Were they asking to be paid in gold, I'd sympathize

 

[patsinthesnow]

The players are now pathetic. Lol at Ray Rice, Pat Willis, etc crying on ESPN about wanting the right deal.
Paid millions and whining about practices lol.

 

[AzPatsFan]

Each week of lost preseaon costs the NFL owners $200 million in revenue. Are they just supposed to eat it, so the NFLPA* can look like tough guys?

So far the most watched preseason game has already been cancelled, probably at a cost of $100 million in revenue.

I expect next Monday or Tuesday another week of preseason will be lost. By my reckoning the CAP fro 2011 should decreases by $300/32 or ($6.25 plus $3.125 million). So if the CAP was set to be $120 miilion it should be reset at $110.50 and by midweek next down to $104.37 million.

Tata Players, Have a Nice Day.

 

[Joker]

I posted this earlier in the afternoon in another thread...

you know, after the past 24 hours, and listening to these sub 80 IQ ,(how can I say this gently?)...uh...MORONS...lash out at the owners and assert there is NO timetable for a settlement, I say, well, to hell with it. How about the owners just wipe the slate clean. Start a new NFL with totally new players, slash payroll, slash ticket prices for the fans,look to television for revenue to cover costs and we all go back to the days when we could take the whole family to a game without having to second mortgage the house?

Then Bart Scott and Joey Porter and James Harrison and Rapistberger and Sanraperchez and the rest of the dysfunctional moron brigade can experience what it's like to have to hold a REAL job in the REAL world.

As long as every team starts off the same, what's the difference...in a few years the game would be right back up to speed and we'd all be better off for it.

Seems like a lot of fans have finally gotten sick of all this crap. If I was the child support officer for Cromartie I'd throw him in the can immediately if he even misses ONE WEEK of child support. Then when he starts crying like the little girl he is to his tough guy moron buddies like Blart Scrott et al,the fans can tell him "tough luck you stupid schmuck..". These idiots want to run their mouths in the media how they are "dissed", while being offered ONE THOUSAND times what any of us could ever hope to earn in a lifetime and we're supposed to buy it????Why would THAT be? We're brainless sheep???Is THAT what these barley functional, illiterate muscle heads think??Screw 'em...blow it up. Start over...football will still be football. Let James Harrison run his stupid idiotic yap down at the car wash....sick of it all

 

[MossWelkowski]

I can see the players wanting to take a day off for Martha Kraft, but today was not excuse for not to meet about the deal. I'm getting so pissed off right now about this. A funeral is from 10-12. Have another conference call from 2-8 or however long it takes.

The players are acting like babies here. Half of them don't even know how to read.

And if this was flipped and the players passed the deal, I would have said the same thing about the owners

 

[patsinthesnow]

I love the fan retaliation, it's about time!

 

[MossWelkowski]

Only reason why the NFLPA is waiting is so they don't look like pushovers to the owners. This is like a 2 year old vs 3 year old settlement for $9.23.

Instead of the owners looking like heroes, now the players will look like heroes when they get a deal done all because of waiting. The pride and arrogance that these players always have to have is disgusting.

 

[BlueThunder]

Good to see these guys at Myra's funeral...

Tom Brady, Vince Wilfork, Dan Koppen, Logan Mankins and Ryan Wendell were among the current players on hand, as was strength and conditioning coach Harold Nash.

Drew Bledsoe, Troy Brown, Tedy Bruschi, Rodney Harrison, Richard Seymour, Willie McGinest, Curtis Martin, Joe Andruzzi, Matt Chatham and Lawyer Milloy were the former players spotted. Hall of Famers Mike Haynes and Andre Tippett, who has worked for the team for several years, came too.

 

[MossWelkowski]

Or... Is this a plan by the NFLPA and NFL to get us to watch NFL network for 3 straight days so they can bank on ads?

 

[MossWelkowski]

Vincent jackson had 2 good years and he wants 10 million... What a arrogant prick

 

[PatsFaninAZ]

Each week of lost preseaon costs the NFL owners $200 million in revenue. Are they just supposed to eat it, so the NFLPA* can look like tough guys?

I thought it was actually a little more than $200 million per preseason game, when taking into account the tv revenue and because many of the clubs have promises STHs food and beverage credits for each cancelled game. I think the NFLPA has a $200 to $300 million poker chip to play with right now, and I don't begrudge them using it. I think that's really all it is -- if they give it the weekend, they may get a minor concession on something in the final negotiations. It's just negotiation, and both sides have been doing it. The deal ultimately will get done in plenty of time; the players are just using the last bit of leverage they have.

Frankly, I'd be delighted if they end up cancelling a preseason game. I hate that I have to pay for 10 games to see 8 good ones. Whether the players or owners pay for it, I don't care. For what they've put us through for the last 4 months, saving a couple of hundred bucks plus getting a food and beverage credit is just fine with me.

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

Lost in this fustercluck is all the hourly people who lose their income working pre-season games. These folks do not make 6 figures. They depend upon these gigs to pay the rent. Previously I was wicked pissed at the owners for jeapordizing these folks' paychecks. But no, we can't expect players reps to get together post 2 hour funeral and spend like a weekend day validating the final agreement. They would lose face.