Compensatory picks and why NE won't get any in 2024

[ctpatsfan77]

I'm posting this here so as not to derail the transactions thread.

Just a quick reminder: the most recent CBA revamped the compensatory pick system.

Basically, to qualify for a compensatory pick, a player:

• * Must be signed by their new team by the Monday after the draft;
• * Must have reached free agency as the result of the natural termination of their contract (void years are OK, but declined options/being released are not); and
• * Must rank in the top 35% of players.

The latter ranking happens first and foremost by the average annual value of the contract. There is a small adjustment for playing time and an even smaller one for postseason honors. Spending most/all of the season on IR does not prohibit a player from qualifying.

Once that list is compiled, if you lose more free agents than you sign, you can get comp picks. If you sign more than you lose, you cannot get comp picks.

This season, the Patriots lost two qualifying FAs: Jakobi Meyers and Nelson Agholor. They signed four: JJSS, Gesicki, Reiff, and Calvin Anderson. Therefore, they will not get any compensatory picks in 2024.

Compensatory Picks | Over the Cap

Compensatory Picks | Over the Cap

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[PatsFan2]

Bwoy real surprise there stop the presses.

 

[DaBruinz]

Bwoy real surprise there stop the presses.

BOY. Real surprise here. YOU posting negative crap..

 

[Joey007]

Wonder how this year will shake out for 25.

Letting Trent Brown walk I’d imagine will net a decent pick. Onwenu walking would probably at least net a 4th or higher (though I hope he’s retained)

Henry probably nets at least a 5th if he goes.

Everyone else who may leave in FA (think Dugger, Uche, Bourne) may net some late rounders at best.

 

[PatsFan2]

Wonder how this year will shake out for 25.

Letting Trent Brown walk I’d imagine will net a decent pick. Onwenu walking would probably at least net a 4th or higher (though I hope he’s retained)

Henry probably nets at least a 5th if he goes.

Everyone else who may leave in FA (think Dugger, Uche, Bourne) may net some late rounders at best.

I'm hoping Trent is in Mayo's plans.

 

[Hammer of Thor]

Wonder how this year will shake out for 25.

Letting Trent Brown walk I’d imagine will net a decent pick. Onwenu walking would probably at least net a 4th or higher (though I hope he’s retained)

Henry probably nets at least a 5th if he goes.

Everyone else who may leave in FA (think Dugger, Uche, Bourne) may net some late rounders at best.

It’ll all depend on what they do with the $75-$80m in cap space they have once they release JC Jackson. If they make a big name signing or two, it’ll likely cancel out the big names you mention on the Patriots end.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

I'm hoping Trent is in Mayo's plans.

I would rather hang on to Onwenu, TBH.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

It’ll all depend on what they do with the $75-$80m in cap space they have once they release JC Jackson. If they make a big name signing or two, it’ll likely cancel out the big names you mention on the Patriots end.

I'm not sure they're going to release him, but that contract definitely isn't staying as is.

 

[JohnJH]

It’ll all depend on what they do with the $75-$80m in cap space they have once they release JC Jackson. If they make a big name signing or two, it’ll likely cancel out the big names you mention on the Patriots end.

Agreed. Although I'd be fine with that if the FA's that they bring in excel with the Patriots.

 

[PatsFan2]

I would rather hang on to Onwenu, TBH.

I've always liked Trent I think he gets a bad rap around here.

 

[MrTibbs]

I've always liked Trent I think he gets a bad rap around here.

Comes off as lazy and unmotivated. Showing up just to collect a check...no thanks. It's time to move on from him.

 

[Ring 6]

Wonder how this year will shake out for 25.

Letting Trent Brown walk I’d imagine will net a decent pick. Onwenu walking would probably at least net a 4th or higher (though I hope he’s retained)

Henry probably nets at least a 5th if he goes.

Everyone else who may leave in FA (think Dugger, Uche, Bourne) may net some late rounders at best.

We are going to have 100 mill of cap room so I doubt we will be getting comp picks.

 

[DaBruinz]

Wonder how this year will shake out for 25.

Letting Trent Brown walk I’d imagine will net a decent pick. Onwenu walking would probably at least net a 4th or higher (though I hope he’s retained)

Henry probably nets at least a 5th if he goes.

Everyone else who may leave in FA (think Dugger, Uche, Bourne) may net some late rounders at best.

You only net picks if you sign fewer qualified Free Agents.

With the money the Pats have, I expect them to no get any comp picks again for 2025.. Regardless of who walks.

I expect Brown, Uche, Henry and Gesicki to all be gone. Same with Slater (retirement) , Mills, Davis, Reiff (retirement), Ferentz, Reagor, and Pharaoh Brown. I expect Onwenu, Bourne, Dugger, Wilson, Jennings, Bryant, and Elliott to be re-signed.

 

[DaBruinz]

It’ll all depend on what they do with the $75-$80m in cap space they have once they release JC Jackson. If they make a big name signing or two, it’ll likely cancel out the big names you mention on the Patriots end.

They currently sit at $67M in free cap space for 2024. Why do you assume that they are going to release Jackson with the new management in place? I'm with you on thinking it, but Mayo isn't BB and we don't know where he stands on things like this..

 

[Ring 6]

They currently sit at $67M in free cap space for 2024. Why do you assume that they are going to release Jackson with the new management in place? I'm with you on thinking it, but Mayo isn't BB and we don't know where he stands on things like this..

You think anyone is looking at JC Jackson today and saying “he’s worth )15 mill, we couldn’t do any better with that money”?

 

[Ring 6]

You only net picks if you sign fewer qualified Free Agents.

With the money the Pats have, I expect them to no get any comp picks again for 2025.. Regardless of who walks.

I expect Brown, Uche, Henry and Gesicki to all be gone. Same with Slater (retirement) , Mills, Davis, Reiff (retirement), Ferentz, Reagor, and Pharaoh Brown. I expect Onwenu, Bourne, Dugger, Wilson, Jennings, Bryant, and Elliott to be re-signed.

If we are bringing in a DC from NO, Carolina or Denver that we are interviewing, then we would be scrapping our defense and bringing in what they have worked with so many of those defensive FAs would no longer be good fits and we will need to take picks and cap $$ we thought was going to offense to bring in defensive players to rebuild that side of the ball to fit the new scheme.

 

[TommyD4207]

You think anyone is looking at JC Jackson today and saying “he’s worth )15 mill, we couldn’t do any better with that money”?

Don't know. I do know they need to spend 33 million to get to the cap floor, so keeping Jackson's number on the books might be worth it for that reason to them.

 

[Ring 6]

Don't know. I do know they need to spend 33 million to get to the cap floor, so keeping Jackson's number on the books might be worth it for that reason to them.

They can give it to someone else.

 

[TommyD4207]

They can give it to someone else.

Of course they *can*.
Free agency's going to tell us a lot. If it's Case Keenum, Lavishka Shenault and a lot of flotsam and jetsam, well, we have our answer.

 

[Pape]

They currently sit at $67M in free cap space for 2024. Why do you assume that they are going to release Jackson with the new management in place? I'm with you on thinking it, but Mayo isn't BB and we don't know where he stands on things like this..

I would wager because we are getting Gonzales back... his injury was really the only reason we traded for JC