Current Draft Order

[BelichickFan]

GBN says our picks both get a coin flip :

Great Blue North Draft Report

Jax tied (record and sos) with Denver. If Jax wins the toss we'd be 12th, if Denver wins it we'd be 10th.

Ten tied (record and sos) with SF. If Ten wins the toss we'd be 15th, if SF wins it we's be 16th.

Kind of funny, when the trade was made we though Tenessee's pick would be low. Then earlier in the season it looked to be real high and it's ended up just about right in the middle.

 

[BelichickFan]

I now show JAX and CHI each with a .500 SOS. Both have 3-3 Div records. Jax has 6-6 Conf Record, Bears have 5-7 record. So Bears are worse, and would get the 10th pick. Right??

Record, SoS and coin flip is it for draft order.

 

[resdubwhite]

Dumb question?

What did the patriots get for the last first rd. pick they traded to Green Bay last year?

Excuse me if this is not the correct place to ask...



EDIT apologies. According to Wiki

# ^ #26 New England → Green Bay (D). New England traded the first-round selection it acquired from Baltimore (26th overall, used to select Clay Matthews) and a fifth-round selection (162nd overall) to Green Bay for a second-round selection (41st overall, used to select Darius Butler) and two third-round selections (73rd overall, traded to Jacksonville, who selected Derek Cox; and 83rd overall, used to select Brandon Tate).[source 7]


My understanding was that there was a 2010 first rd in there somewhere.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

Record, SoS and coin flip is it for draft order.

Actually, it's not:

The season ended with a tie between three 4-12 teams for the third pick, but because Kansas City finished ahead of Oakland in the AFC West by tiebreaker, the Chiefs were locked in behind the Raiders in the draft order. If Dimitroff had lost the toss to Oakland, Atlanta and Kansas City would have flipped for the fourth spot.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

My understanding was that there was a 2010 first rd in there somewhere.

Nope. There are reports that at least one team did offer a package including a 2010 1st for one of the Patriots' top picks, but Belichick didn't want to do that.

 

[NePatriots]

Confirmed by Adam Schefter...

CHI/JAX

TEN/CAR

ATL/HOU

will all come down to coin flips. Conf and Div tiebreakers don't apply (not in same division or conference) and SOS is tied on each one.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

Confirmed by Adam Schefter...

CHI/JAX

TEN/CAR

ATL/HOU

will all come down to coin flips. Conf and Div tiebreakers don't apply (not in same division or conference) and SOS is tied on each one.

Hmm. Apparently my spreadsheet has an error, but I have no inclination to hunt it down.

 

[NePatriots]

Due to NYJ and BAL winning:

The Patriots now own the #23 pick in the first round, which can move up to #22 if the Cardinals can beat the Packers.

 

[BelichickFan]

Due to NYJ and BAL winning:

The Patriots now own the #23 pick in the first round, which can move up to #22 if the Cardinals can beat the Packers.

So are you guys sure it's #22 ? I'm not good on these kinds of details. I thought that all that mattered was Making the playoffs (new to mattering this year), Record and then the last two picks for the SB teams.

Of course, I hope you're right

 

[NePatriots]

So are you guys sure it's #22 ? I'm not good on these kinds of details. I thought that all that mattered was Making the playoffs (new to mattering this year), Record and then the last two picks for the SB teams.

Of course, I hope you're right

Yep, the NFL changed the NFL Draft order rules for playoff teams. Read more at 2010 NFL Draft Order and 4-Letter-Network.

 

[BelichickFan]

Yep, the NFL changed the NFL Draft order rules for playoff teams. Read more at 2010 NFL Draft Order and 4-Letter-Network.

Yeah, that ESPN article seems to confirm it. Nice spot to pick - unfortunately.

 

[FreeTedWilliams]

Yup pick #22, I say we trade it away to the Ravens for some lower picks, becuase we certainly have enough talent already to beat them.

 

[mayoclinic]

With the Jets win over SD, the top 28 spots in the draft are set except for coin flips (listed with an *):

28. San Diego (13-3)
27. Dallas (11-5)
26. Arizona (10-6)
25. Baltimore (9-7)
24. Philadelphia (11-5)
23. Green Bay (11-5)
22. New England (10-6)
21. Cincinnati (10-6)
20.* Houston (9-7)
19.* Atlanta (9-7)
18. Pittsburgh (9-7)
17.* Tennessee (8-8)
16.* San Francisco (from Carolina 8-8)
15. New York Giants (8-8)
14. Seattle (from Denver 8-8)
13. San Francisco (8-8)
12. Miami (7-9)
11.* Jacksonville (7-9)
10.* Denver (7-9)
9. Buffalo (6-10)
8. Oakland (5-11)
7. Cleveland (5-11)
6. Seattle (5-11)
5. Kansas City (4-12)
4. Washington (4-12)
3. Tampa Bay (3-13)
2. Detroit (2-14)
1. St. Louis (1-15)

Picks 29-32 will be taken by the Jets, Indy, Minnesota and New Orleans. The Jets will pick 29th if they lose next week, or 31/32 if they make the SB. Indy will be 30th if they lose next week. The loser of NO/Minnesota will pick 29th or 30th depending on whether the Jets or Indy wins.

 

[FreeTedWilliams]

The "best guess" amoung drafniks is that playoff teams with the same reg season record, who were eliminated in the same round will rotate picks through the later rounds. Which means that the Pats will rotate picks #21 and #22 through all seven rounds with Cincy.

So the Pats will pick #22, #53, #85(OAK)(-1 pick, Washington forfeits pick #62 because they used their 3rd round pick in the supplemental draft last year).

After the third round the exact pick can not be determined yet, because the NFL will assign "comp picks" starting at the end of the 3rd round, so the number of comp picks for each round is unknown at this time. 32 Comp picks will be issued by the NFL (no more, no less and the Pats will receive 4 of them (most likely 1 6th, 3 7th round ones) and remember these picks can not be traded).

So the Pats will have the #21 pick in the 4th round, Oakland will have the Pats #22 pick in the 5th round. The Pats will have the #21 pick in the 6th round and the #22 pick in the 7th round.

We still do not know the exact position of the second round picks that the Pats got from Jacksonville and Tennesse are yet, as they as both still subject to seperate coin flips which will be conducted at the scouting combine.

The Jacksonville pick will either be #42 if they lose the coin flip with Chicago (who has actually traded that pick to Denver), or #44 if they win the coin flip.

The Tennesse pick will either be #47 if they win the coin flip with Carolina (who has acutally traded this pick to San Francisco), or #48 if they lose the coin flip.

 

[mayoclinic]

The Tennesse pick will either be #57 if they win the coin flip with Carolina (who has acutally traded this pick to San Francisco), or #58 if they lose the coin flip.

You mean 47 or 48.

 

[FreeTedWilliams]

You mean 47 or 48.

Correct(ed), thanks, its that "new math" that always gets me......

 

[ctpatsfan77]

After the third round the exact pick can not be determined yet, because the NFL will assign "comp picks" starting at the end of the 3rd round, so the number of comp picks for each round is unknown at this time. 32 Comp picks will be issued by the NFL (no more, no less and the Pats will receive 4 of them (most likely 1 6th, 3 7th round ones) and remember these picks can not be traded).

AdamJT13 (the guy who does comp pick predictions) actually predicted that the Patriots should (not will) get four comp picks, and that most likely they will all be 7s, although the pick for Gaffney could be a 6.