Re: WR: if Pats re-sign Edelman and Lloyd, are we stronger at WR than we were last se
Hence why I said he was a better 'football player'. Look at my post.
You're moving the goal posts now. Your original statement was that he should have been on the field instead of Lloyd. What he does in other phases of the game is irrelevant given the context of your original statement.
Either you meant it as a slight against or you didn't.
It was neither of the sort. I already pointed out a slight when I noted that Edelman wasn't able to do what Lloyd did even though he had a three year head start.
Blown coverage is blown coverage. Lloyd had two, how blown is really splitting hairs. Overall I think it's silly to knock a player for catching a TD on blown coverage. By definition the Patriots offense is predicated on Brady throwing you the ball because a WR is taking advantage of an error by the defense. It's a mismatch, clever scheme that they use. Brady typically doesn't throw balls that require a great deal of physical finesse to catch if he has someone wide open or in a clear mismatch situation.
It's not splitting hairs at all. Lloyd's man was trailing, meaning his man overreacted for a split second and Lloyd got separation. Edelman didn't even have a man until Landry picked him up and, by then, Edelman was already three steps ahead of him with the ball in the air.
The gap was narrowing until he got injured, really. That's all it was.
I didn't take into account the injured games when I compared the two.
He got injured. If you remember in that span between the Ravens and Colts game he was on absolute fire. They were using him in reverses, post routes, on sideline fades, everywhere.
In that given span...
8 rec., 73 yards, 1 TD
1 rush, 47 yards, 0 TD
It would seem that your definition of "on fire" needs some polishing.
These two are pretty related so I'll answer them together: because he probably hasn't recovered from his foot injury *and* perhaps there is the thought he doesn't want to leave New England anyway like Vollmer.
The fact that you have to guess is telling. He's had since Week 13 to recover from that injury. Perhaps he had gangrene?
Ignore those two, here's another - only 18 out of roughly 70 FA WRs have been signed so far. AKA, it's still early. Assuming 25% of those WRs suck and should retire, that's 18/46 or roughly 40% of the viable WRs have been signed so far.
You're destroying your own contention about Edelman's ability as a WR here. The market for FA's was not very good and, with Wallace, Boldin, and Harvin gone, it's even worse. If Edelman was the WR you and Tony made him out to be, he would have already been scooped up by now.
For someone that's injured, I don't think it's unrealistic that you could have some talent and not be in the first 40% that has been signed. By the way, there have been rumblings that Houston and Chicago are interested, but I haven't confirmed any solid source. Just saw it on twitter recently.
Those two teams need PR's so I'm not surprised.
Maybe JE is worth more to the Pats than anyone else. Maybe BB wants to prove that to JE's agent much like it appears he is doing to Lloyd. Than when the market bottoms if BB needs one or both - there they are.
Given the two posters' original contention re: Edelman, a WR like that would be worth a good deal to any team, especially at a bargain basement price for a guy that is also a very good PR.