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Why would they want to trade with us knowing we don’t need a qb
Because another team could potentially be looking to trade for the player they possibly want at the Patriots pick.
 
Guys with Hunter's build have never gone #1 overall in the history of the NFL draft (past 52 years anyway). In fact, the only player drafted #1 overall who was under 6 feet was Earl Campbell.

Let somebody else move up to #1 to grab him. He's a piece for a win-now team. He's not a guy to build a team around.
 
Guys with Hunter's build have never gone #1 overall in the history of the NFL draft (past 52 years anyway). In fact, the only player drafted #1 overall who was under 6 feet was Earl Campbell.

Let somebody else move up to #1 to grab him. He's a piece for a win-now team. He's not a guy to build a team around.
He’s 6’1 185

Champ Bailey didn’t go 1 but he was 6’0 192 and probably would go first in a redraft in most years.

Charles Woodson was 6-1 202.
 
Guys with Hunter's build have never gone #1 overall in the history of the NFL draft (past 52 years anyway). In fact, the only player drafted #1 overall who was under 6 feet was Earl Campbell.

Let somebody else move up to #1 to grab him. He's a piece for a win-now team. He's not a guy to build a team around.
However, the #1 pick changes the whole draft board so the suspected haul will be too much to pass on.
 
Why would they want to trade with us knowing we don’t need a qb
They may prefer Ward over Sanders, or vice versa. Some people don't like seconds so the Browns or Giants might trade up to #1 to jump over the Titans. The Titans might trade up to ensure the Browns and Giants can't jump over them. Knowing we don't want a QB makes trading with them possible.
 
He’s 6’1 185

Champ Bailey didn’t go 1 but he was 6’0 192 and probably would go first in a redraft in most years.

Charles Woodson was 6-1 202.

I muffed that. I see that ESPN has him listed at 6'1".

Point still remains that he's not a guy to rebuild a team that is as as devoid of NFL talent as the Pats (or Giants for that matter). Trade back and let a team better built to win-now roll those dice.
 
I muffed that. I see that ESPN has him listed at 6'1".

Point still remains that he's not a guy to rebuild a team that is as as devoid of NFL talent as the Pats (or Giants for that matter). Trade back and let a team better built to win-now roll those dice.
We already have the QB. What player do you build the team around?
 
I muffed that. I see that ESPN has him listed at 6'1".

Point still remains that he's not a guy to rebuild a team that is as as devoid of NFL talent as the Pats (or Giants for that matter). Trade back and let a team better built to win-now roll those dice.
So if the Patriots trade back in a swap for 3, get this years 2nd and next years 1st + 2nd you are not taking Travis Hunter? Anyone that thinks this rebuild is getting us a SB in year 2 is not seeing the big picture. I’d find it to be a huge success if they just made the wild card. Get your free agent money, sign Alaric Jackson from the Rams, draft another tackle with a trade up for Simmons or Milum and this party is about to get started.
 
They can trade to any team that wants a qb. There are many
Agree with this, just in the top 10 there are the Giants, Titans, Raiders, Jets, Browns and maybe saints. Someone will throw money at Darnold to be there starter and possibly Fields, You are right though that some needy team is going to go crazy for One of the QBs or Hunter.
 
So if the Patriots trade back in a swap for 3, get this years 2nd and next years 1st + 2nd you are not taking Travis Hunter? Anyone that thinks this rebuild is getting us a SB in year 2 is not seeing the big picture. I’d find it to be a huge success if they just made the wild card. Get your free agent money, sign Alaric Jackson from the Rams, draft another tackle with a trade up for Simmons or Milum and this party is about to get started.
For me, the key is to get a stud with the 3rd through 6th pick plus a 2026 first plus a 2nd this year or next.
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If we get that, I am 100% fine with drafting the BPA at 3.
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Of course, our joint nightmare is that we will win next week and end up picking 4th, the lowest we can go at this point.
 
Sure ..... grab it ... I think the Raiders will be desperate ... It has some to do
with Las Vegas determined in improving themselves as a sports destinatation.
Supposedly Brady will be involved in the decision, at least it has been reported that way, I don't know if Brady would be down to mortgage the future for a Cam Or Sanders.
 
Agree with this, just in the top 10 there are the Giants, Titans, Raiders, Jets, Browns and maybe saints. Someone will throw money at Darnold to be there starter and possibly Fields, You are right though that some needy team is going to go crazy for One of the QBs or Hunter.
I would ignore the saints; they are too low. That leaves FIVE potential trade partners.

Winning next week would be a mark of gross negligence with regard to doing what is best for the future of the team.
 
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For me, the key is to get a stud with the 3rd through 6th pick plus a 2026 first plus a 2nd this year or next.
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If we get that, I am 100% fine with drafting the BPA at 3.
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Of course, our joint nightmare is that we will win next week and end up picking 4th, the lowest we can go at this point.
It would be a very Mayo thing to do by winning that game.
 
With this draft being the weakest draft in quite some time, the key for us is leverage the 1st overall pick in the draft into quality assets!
If we move down to 4-6 and pick up a 2nd this year and a 1st next year, at the minimum, then we should do it!!!!

Hunter = the only blue chip player in this draft. Primarily a corner. But can have some receiver packages in offense.
Ward and sanders = qb’s and we already have one.
McMillan = harry part 3. Stay away from him.
Abdul = undersized and not much power. Pass!
Campbell = very young. Are his arms long enough to stay at tackle?
Burton = best WR in this draft. But not a first round talent in last year’s draft
Banks = heavy feet, offers nothing on the run game!!! Pass !!!!!
 
I muffed that. I see that ESPN has him listed at 6'1".

Point still remains that he's not a guy to rebuild a team that is as as devoid of NFL talent as the Pats (or Giants for that matter). Trade back and let a team better built to win-now roll those dice.

This is the kind of thinking that led the Pats to pass on Cortez Kennedy so they could trade down for Chris Singleton and Ray Agnew.
 
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