With the 4th overall selection in the 2008 NFL draft...

[Nordy]

Rookies generally do that, huh? Samson Satele has helped big time on the line as we now have a top 12 unit, John Beck is on the cusp of getting his first start, and Ted Ginn is improving each week. We had a damn good first day of the 2007 draft.

Beck hasn't even taken a regular season snap and Ginn has yet to show that he wasn't a massive reach. To say the Fish had a damn good first day is just ridiculous at this point in time.

 

[pats1]

Remember that Richard Seymour was the 6th overall pick.

Right, but the Patriots of April 2001 were in a little different position than the Patriots of April 2008 will be.

 

[Aqua4Ever04]

Kind of early to be bolstering such a claim, don't you think? Ginn hasn't shown much of anything and Beck hasn't even played. 1 out of 3 players contributing week in and out isn't exactly a "damn good" day after having 3 high round picks, at least not if we're evaluating at this point.

Well then why is it fair for all of you guys to say Ginn is a bust?

Satele is already a top 10 center in the league so by that token we did alright as of now.

 

[drew4008]

Well then why is it fair for all of you guys to say Ginn is a bust?

Satele is already a top 10 center in the league so by that token we did alright as of now.

I don't think it's fair, and would say it's early to make a judgement on any pick, good or bad.

There you go once again making a bold claim much too fast. 9 games in and he's top 10? Do you even watch 5 other centers per year? How are you coming to this conclusion? Please don't go throwing around such labels and just say it like it is... he's been a bright spot on a disappointing year.

 

[LiveShot]

The Pats almost never use a high draft pick. Too much money for unproven talent. They will trade down or for future picks. You can get a running back in later rounds.

 

[bradmahn]

The Pats almost never use a high draft pick. Too much money for unproven talent. They will trade down or for future picks. You can get a running back in later rounds.

They've had a high pick once, and used it.

People, haven't we learned that you can't make a blanket statement about anything this front office will do, regarding any situation (draft, free agency, trade or otherwise)?

 

[VJCPatriot]

He rushed 300 yards against who, Miami Dolphins or Appalachian State? Now that you've selected a RB, who are you starting in place of Bruschi (retired) Harrison (retired) Jr. Seau (retired) and Samuel (gone)?

First of all the Dolphins couldn't even beat Appalachian State. So your point is moot.

Second of all you act like 1 draft pick can replace 5 different players when obviously it cannot, whoever you pick. If I could draft Brian Urlacher in next year's draft, could he replace all 5 players? Absolutely not. So your argument is facetious.

Finally, the whole point is that if you have a chance to draft an outstanding top 5 stud talent for the next 10 years, you do it. McFadden, is one of those rare once in a decade talents.
Basically your argument boils down to - I am against drafting the next Bo Jackson because I am insecure about replacing many other positions in the future. That doesn't really cut it as proper drafting rationale.

In the case of the Patriots, thank goodness the fans are not in charge of drafting the team personnell. In the case of the Dolphins, I probably did a better job with my 2007 mock draft that I only spent about 1 or 2 hours researching. That just says so much about what a joke the Dolphins are from top to bottom.

 

[spacecrime]

There's no way in hell the Pats use this pick. Kraft has said multiple times in the past that high first round picks are not economical.

What was wrong with their last top ten draft pick? I thought we got very good value for the money...

 

[bradmahn]

First of all the Dolphins couldn't even beat Appalachian State. So your point is moot.

Second of all you act like 1 draft pick can replace 5 different players when obviously it cannot, whoever you pick. If I could draft Brian Urlacher in next year's draft, could he replace all 5 players? Absolutely not. So your argument is facetious.

Finally, the whole point is that if you have a chance to draft an outstanding top 5 stud talent for the next 10 years, you do it. McFadden, is one of those once in a decade talents.

Except one of those "once in a decade talents" was selected with the seventh pick in the 2007 draft. Running backs have an average of four years in this league, few remain productive for ten years.

Giving the kind of money slotted for the top five to a RB is foolish. It's not worth it. I agree with Parcells on this topic. Give me a stud big ugly that is more than capable of playing for a decade, on defense or offense, any day of the week.

 

[upstater1]

The Pats almost never use a high draft pick. Too much money for unproven talent. They will trade down or for future picks. You can get a running back in later rounds.

It's not like they've had the opportunity, have they? Since Pioli has been here they've only had the opportunity to select high once.

 

[spacecrime]

Right, but the Patriots of April 2001 were in a little different position than the Patriots of April 2008 will be.

Yes, the 2001 Pats need a LOT of help in a LOT of positions. It made much sense to trade dwon and get MORE players, not one stud.

This year we are set at most positions. Multiple picks don't make sense when you have so few holes. Instead, with a team that is set, you want a dominating player rather than a bunch of guys that won't even get on the field as rookies.

 

[MrBigglesWorth]

Yes, the 2001 Pats need a LOT of help in a LOT of positions. It made much sense to trade dwon and get MORE players, not one stud.

This year we are set at most positions. Multiple picks don't make sense when you have so few holes. Instead, with a team that is set, you want a dominating player rather than a bunch of guys that won't even get on the field as rookies.

which players are dominating in your opinion in the top 3?

 

[Nordy]

which players are dominating in your opinion in the top 3?

Dorsey, McFadden and the Longs

 

[Ice Cold Bruschi]

first, the Jets have clemens and DO need a RB secondly I'd bet my tuition that we trade that pick no way do we want to pay the money to a top 5 pick, now if McFadden fell to us that would definately play to our advantage since it would make the pick that much more valuable in trade.

 

[JoePats]

Yes, the 2001 Pats need a LOT of help in a LOT of positions. It made much sense to trade dwon and get MORE players, not one stud.

This year we are set at most positions. Multiple picks don't make sense when you have so few holes. Instead, with a team that is set, you want a dominating player rather than a bunch of guys that won't even get on the field as rookies.

As such, there are also several higher paid veterans and thus lesser ability to fit in a huge salary for an unproven player.

 

[Nordy]

first, the Jets have clemens and DO need a RB secondly I'd bet my tuition that we trade that pick no way do we want to pay the money to a top 5 pick, now if McFadden fell to us that would definately play to our advantage since it would make the pick that much more valuable in trade.

The Jets need Chris Long a lot more than they need a RB.

 

[scout]

First of all the Dolphins couldn't even beat Appalachian State. So your point is moot.

Second of all you act like 1 draft pick can replace 5 different players when obviously it cannot, whoever you pick. If I could draft Brian Urlacher in next year's draft, could he replace all 5 players? Absolutely not. So your argument is facetious.

Finally, the whole point is that if you have a chance to draft an outstanding top 5 stud talent for the next 10 years, you do it. McFadden, is one of those rare once in a decade talents.
Basically your argument boils down to - I am against drafting the next Bo Jackson because I am insecure about replacing many other positions in the future. That doesn't really cut it as proper drafting rationale.

In the case of the Patriots, thank goodness the fans are not in charge of drafting the team personnell. In the case of the Dolphins, I probably did a better job with my 2007 mock draft that I only spent about 1 or 2 hours researching. That just says so much about what a joke the Dolphins are from top to bottom.

By drafting a RB you do not fill a need. When you trade that pick and acquire more picks you at least hope to take care of positions that you know will be vacated soon. Ditto, on the fans not being in charge of drafting personnell. My trust is with BB. If he chooses to draft a RB with the pick then I have no problem with it. I'm willing to wager that that will not happen.