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Will Talib be here next year?

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  1. Brady_to_Moss

    Brady_to_Moss The Butler did it PatsFans.com Supporter

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    I think he is a step in the right direction...get some more depth as well as him. He should still come pretty cheap being injured this year and all
     
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    juny Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract

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    I sure hope so. The defense was so much better with him. To bad he only played about half a quarter today.
     
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    He better be, or atleast someone who can replace him better than Arrington & Cole did
     
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    Between the hip and the hammy I'm a little concerned how reliable he is. They certainly need to either extend or replace him, though. They need to seriously upgrade that secondary...still. I know Bill has some developmental swiss army knife like binky's in the wings but the way fear of getting beat deep drove him tonight he has to get more talented players in that secondary and he has to be able to rely on them or what is immediately behind them.
     
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    They gotta get someone if not him. Might as well be him (if they feel he's not an injury risk that is).
     
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    Someone who can attack the QB would take SO much pressure off of the CBs. We don't have anyone on the D that can take over the game in the front 7 from a pass rush perspective
     
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    I will spontaneously combust if Ras-I Dowling contributes nothing to the Patriots in 2013. The Patriots really need him and Talib. Dennard has been a breath of fresh air in the secondary.
     
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    He better be. It wasn't a fluke that this D was garbage without him. His impact had a serious trickle-down effect, allowing McCourty to move to S, Arrington to the slot and allowing us to blitz more. Belichick finally found a reliable corner...it'd be a shame to let him go.
     
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    I sure hope so, he's looked great at Corner for us and a tandem of him and Dennard should be with us for the foreseeable future. It's not like there's anything so obviously better on the free agent than Talib anyway.
     
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    Instead of focusing on Talib, why not look at the remaining members of this secondary...I saw all of them in action up close tonight...Arrington is at best a nickel back, Dennard can play but is short, a fact easily discerned watching the Ravens WR's outjump and outposition him and everyone else tonight...and, until now, I was on the fence about Chung...please, I have no idea what you guys saw on TV but in person from like 10 yeards away I SAW him attempt to wrap Ray Rice with both arms and watched Rice easily break his tackle and waltz in for the TD...I have no idea what it is that Chung is SUPPOSED to be but it's not safety...at least not any kind of safety I am used to seeing.

    That being said...zero pressure on Flacco except by Ninks...that was it...ZERO...that is NOT championship defense...they got beat at the point of attack the entire second half...by a team that was supposed to be "tired".
     
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    dowling will do nothing next year...you can almost count on him being hurt or doing nothing like arrington....we should all know this by now...guy is not who we thought would be
     
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    There are lots of decisions in the secondary. The following are free agents: Talib, Arrington, Cole, and Chung. WE need four contributors. IMHO, Talib is worth a lot to us.
     
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    This defense without Talib and Jones is completely different story, save that Dennard and Niko had some good plays this year thoughout. But Cole and Arrington is completely **** and yes, we have to bring back Talib, it's like watching two different teams playing defense with him in the DBs and without him.
     
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    IMO, you can put a line through Arrington, Cole and Chung. What's likely is Arrington and Cole will probably stick around because they can play Special Teams. #meh
     
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    I say pay Talib and get him on the squad for a few years. You dont get to acquire a stud CB like him without showing him the money. Our efforts to develop a CB like him have spanned several seasons without success.
     
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    How about Talib is still very young and yet to get into his prime? As long as he can stay trouble free off the field I don't see a reason why he shouldn't be back, he was our best DB
     
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    What makes me mad is that we have so many ST only players that are useless at properly giving depth on O or D.
     
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    I don't know if he will, but somebody will. The free agent CB class is fantastic.
    Aqib Talib
    Keenan Lewis - 6'1" first year starter for Steelers this year; 0 picks but 23 PDs
    Sean Smith - Not his first year starting, but his first year contributing in a positive way; oh, and he's 6'4"
    DRC - Belichick was reportedly a fan when he was a prospect (picked Mayo instead); is full of talent but is soft
    Nnamdi Asomugha - Was terrible this year and bad the year before, but there's no denying the talent; under contract but could definitely be cut
    Chris Houston - Smaller but talented, minor durability issues
    Darius Butler - Not overly realistic, but he's a better fit for the man that the Pats want to play than the zone that got him cut
    Brent Grimes - Low risk injury reclamation signing

    Summary: Doesn't have to be Talib, but they need to do something.
     
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    Talib is a keeper. The final compromise on his contract should be to add some hefty playing time incentives to what is otherwise a bit of a lowball deal.
     
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    no on nnamdi
     
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