Why haven't Drake's fundamentals been fixed?

[Ring 6]

I don't know why you're so dedicated to the "fabricated attacks" label lmao. Even Maye H I M S E L F addressed his yips. It's okay to call out a trend and still hope for the best. These two things can be true, Ring! I think you, of all people, who can be very forward with a player's/coach's/team's shortcomings, can understand. It's just something that was a trend and people pointed that out, and I'd say - outside of some doomers - most people chalked it up to just that, the yips. And saw it as something that can be fixed (rather than a defining quality of the QB).

Because I watched the film. People claimed his throwing mechanics were poor. I asked for examples and I got referred to a sportswriters review that identified one single throw that was while he was escaping pressure.
If I dint see it and the people who say it happened can’t show it to me, it’s fabricated.

With that in mind, perhaps you can direct me to where Maye publicly stated he is afflicted with the tips, so I can understand your point of view.

Is it not reasonable to ask someone to back up something they state as fact? You know as well as I do that this board has a lot of posters who don’t analyze anything, do verify what they think or hear on the film. Overblowing things that happen rarely as an habitual flaw is common among football fans. I don’t think it’s unreasonable when someone says they see something that I don’t that they are asked for examples. And when those examples don’t come, I don’t think it’s unreasonable to conclude they were just mimicking something they heard, complaining or blowing a rare occurrence out of proportion.
Is the point of discussing disagreement to get to the truth?
It’s not my fault that people who were calling him lazy, saying he hasn’t progressed at all, etc ultimately prove to not being able to show examples to support it.

 

[1960Pats]

Oh I doubt it. People like 1960 are not actual fans. They are trolls who get off by complaining. Its not about being nice. Its about being realistic. The fool bashed Drake for having a good game. How more insufferable can a person be?

I actually wasn't complaining. I was agreeing with your take that people were expecting too much from Maye. I guess I didn't make that clear enough.

Goodbye.

 

[yukon cornelius]

All true, but that does not mean he doesn't need to work on his fundamentals, which were an acknowledged problem even before he was drafted.

Everyone not named dan marino needs work on fundamentals lol - his real issue was between the ears, and he looks to be be on the right track there......so let's see him do it two weeks in a row now

 

[borg]

Dude was almost flawless and faultless today. Sweet relief. We'll see how it goes.

Daniel Jones was near flawless vs MIA in Week 1

 

[1960Pats]

Yup, Drake was great today.

Be nice to people. Remember that everyone here happens to be a Patriots fan even if some commentary appears misguided.

I wasn't complaining and my comment about 2 or 3 years was about the team's success, not Maye. Apparently I didn't make that clear enough. Oh well.

 

[imahobgoblin]

I wasn't complaining and my comment about 2 or 3 years was about the team's success, not Maye. Apparently I didn't make that clear enough. Oh well.

Well that is a bunch of BS. You wrote, "The kid will be lucky if he can turn things around in 2 or 3 years."

 

[Jim Beankie]

Daniel Jones was near flawless vs MIA in Week 1

I didn't get to watch DJones' game like I was trying to examine Elaine's XMas card. With Maye's game, I couldn't see a nip.

 

[Thelonious]

Everyone not named dan marino needs work on fundamentals lol - his real issue was between the ears, and he looks to be be on the right track there......so let's see him do it two weeks in a row now

His mechanics were markedly better this game, as was his pocket movement, his reads, his accuracy, his demeanor, and so on. I don't know why you decline to acknowledge that his development must proceed along several lines simultaneously. One need not take sos implistic a view as yours. And yes, obviously, all qb's must keep up their mechanics/fundamentals: Brady worked on them every season and every off-season.

 

[yukon cornelius]

His mechanics were markedly better this game, as was his pocket movement, his reads, his accuracy, his demeanor, and so on. I don't know why you decline to acknowledge that his development must proceed along several lines simultaneously. One need not take sos implistic a view as yours. And yes, obviously, all qb's must keep up their mechanics/fundamentals: Brady worked on them every season and every off-season.

simplistic?
no - i 100% agree theres a multitude of facets to his game that need to improve to hit his potential - can he be a top 10? top 5? QB in this league? I think he has the potential skillset, yes - hell, statistically he's in that range right now, albeit with a tiny, unbalanced sample size

i just think the area he needs to improve most/area that would have the biggest impact right now, is to improve between the ears - and i think many of those things you mentioned (pocket movement, which was very good yesterday; his progression through his reads, his demeanor, his decision making, and even his mechanics) improve when his confidence improves, when he stops gripping and goes out there and lets it go.........was yesterday's performance elite, or against a top level defense? no......but what you saw yesterday was a kid playing a lot with a lot more assuredness, and the performance followed suit

 

[Thelonious]

simplistic?
no - i 100% agree theres a multitude of facets to his game that need to improve to hit his potential - can he be a top 10? top 5? QB in this league? I think he has the potential skillset, yes - hell, statistically he's in that range right now, albeit with a tiny, unbalanced sample size

i just think the area he needs to improve most/area that would have the biggest impact right now, is to improve between the ears - and i think many of those things you mentioned (pocket movement, which was very good yesterday; his progression through his reads, his demeanor, his decision making, and even his mechanics) improve when his confidence improves, when he stops gripping and goes out there and lets it go.........was yesterday's performance elite, or against a top level defense? no......but what you saw yesterday was a kid playing a lot with a lot more assuredness, and the performance followed suit

There is absolutely no need to work on one aspect of his craft at a time, so it does not matter which area requiring attention is "most important," if that phrase even means anything. All aspects of qb play are interrelated anyway, and the idea he must ignore one deficiency to work on another is just sort of silly.

 

[Thelonious]

Well that is a bunch of BS. You wrote, "The kid will be lucky if he can turn things around in 2 or 3 years."

BS? In a sports chat forum? Say it ain't so! Next thing you'll be telling me somebody's got a pissing contest going on.

 

[yukon cornelius]

There is absolutely no need to work on one aspect of his craft at a time, so it does not matter which area requiring attention is "most important," if that phrase even means anything. All aspects of qb play are interrelated anyway, and the idea he must ignore one deficiency to work on another is just sort of silly.

who said ignore?

you're creating an "argument" where none exists.......

 

[Thelonious]

who said ignore?

you're creating an "argument" where none exists.......

lol. I think we may be be cooperating in that effort. No matter. Let's just have a good day and pray for rain.

 

[JoeSixPat]

Maye seems to be answering this question on fundamentals on his own.

While it's still September/pre-Season in terms of Ds figuring things out, Maye is already making game planning against him difficult.

He's shown he can throw passes anywhere on the field, short, deep, slant, drop in, bullet pass, or light touch.

In just two games he's spread the field to 11 different receivers - including himself! (Not too shabby, catching 100% of the passes Maye has thrown to him! I think they have a good connection!)

And of course he's not just a passing and receiving threat - he can run too, picking up 3 yards a carry!

But unlike some younger QBs out there, he actually knowns when to run and when to step up in the pocket - it's a seasoning for a smart QB, not the main dish, and he's only going to get better as the OL improves and he gets more experience under his belt, even though there will surely be setbacks.

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