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Why haven't Drake's fundamentals been fixed?

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That guy would not have drafted Maye, imo

Belichick never would have drafted Maye and he made that very clear when the pick was made. signbabybill knows this but continues to play make believe. His quote was “ he thinks he’s Josh Allen, but he’s no Josh Allen!” Josh Allen was taken with the #7 pick, Maye went at #3. signbabybill and the cult want to rewrite history to pretend that Belichick would have used the #3 pick on a player he doesn’t think is anywhere near as good as the guy picked at 7. Belichick would have brought in a free agent QB, as he did with Cam Newton. And they would have sucked as bad as Cam Newton.
 
Belichick never would have drafted Maye and he made that very clear when the pick was made. signbabybill knows this but continues to play make believe. His quote was “ he thinks he’s Josh Allen, but he’s no Josh Allen!” Josh Allen was taken with the #7 pick, Maye went at #3. signbabybill and the cult want to rewrite history to pretend that Belichick would have used the #3 pick on a player he doesn’t think is anywhere near as good as the guy picked at 7. Belichick would have brought in a free agent QB, as he did with Cam Newton. And they would have sucked as bad as Cam Newton.
You keep repeating the same stuff spamming multiple threads. Please grow up.
 
Everyone giving credit to Daboll for Josh Allen development. He had some part of it but I think the most responsible person for Josh Allen becoming great IS Josh Allen.

He understood that for him to become great he had to fix his mechanics. He couldn’t hit the side of barn when he came out of college. But he became maniacal about his mechanics, honestly on almost a Brady level and that fixed a lot of his problems.
Josh Allen admitted he had the time to work on it because he was bored during covid and the fact he had nothing else to do was incredibly helpful for him to focus on that. He also had lower body issue which caused upper body issues which was kind of a unique issue that not many QB's have.
Ironically one of his fixes to keep his shoulder staying behind his hip turn (big issue for him before 2020) was to start with the ball going back lower. Tom Brady, the man of perfect QB mechanics, brings the ball straight up. He would NEVER do what Allen does. But it works for Allen who is pretty good MVP worthy QB. There are PERFECT Tom Brady mechanics and there are mechanics that work for other people that are not perfect.

The fact Allen needs to bring the ball lower, like Drake Maye does, is probably why he still has some massive misses, but it's made him more accurate overall because that small issue is much better than his really bad issue he had.

Drake was one of the most accurate deep ball throwers in college, best in years on tape. Down the field he is money, you don't mess too much with that but you can improve his motion on shorter throws. He tries to use the same longer windup on shorter throws but the mechanics make the probability of getting out of synch higher and the fact he has to put less into the throw can throw off the arm placement.

His throwing motion works great for him on most throws but he needs to adjust his mechanics for shorter throws to compact the throwing motion. The longer the motion the more chance to get out of whack. He's done it enough that he almost always gets his arm and ball in the correct position before throwing. It's like a golf swing, all that matters is the club face when you hit the ball, how you get there is meaningless other than some ways of doing it lead to more consistency.

Let's not go crazy and think Patriots don't have people working with Maye on this. You can see many throws where he is great on mechanics. It does seem when he is too hyped at beginning of games, when he starts avoiding the rush he falls back into his less accurate mechanics. Some of that could be mental, some of that is the fact it's harder to simulate 300 pound guys trying to kill you when working on mechanics in practice.

Nobody that has worked with him ever questioned his work ethic.

Let's not also forget when this season ends Maye will be younger than Daniels was at the beginning of LAST season.
 
Here is Josh Allen talking about his change in mechanics. Back to my point on 300-pound guys chasing you he addresses that as as well. Says he still has plays today where he feels his mechanics get off but has to continually reinforce them before the game. The only way to work on keeping mechanics is a lot of reps. Drake will work on this, it takes time.

 
Belichick never would have drafted Maye and he made that very clear when the pick was made. signbabybill knows this but continues to play make believe. His quote was “ he thinks he’s Josh Allen, but he’s no Josh Allen!” Josh Allen was taken with the #7 pick, Maye went at #3. signbabybill and the cult want to rewrite history to pretend that Belichick would have used the #3 pick on a player he doesn’t think is anywhere near as good as the guy picked at 7. Belichick would have brought in a free agent QB, as he did with Cam Newton. And they would have sucked as bad as Cam Newton.
This is not true
 
Belichick never would have drafted Maye and he made that very clear when the pick was made. signbabybill knows this but continues to play make believe. His quote was “ he thinks he’s Josh Allen, but he’s no Josh Allen!” Josh Allen was taken with the #7 pick, Maye went at #3. signbabybill and the cult want to rewrite history to pretend that Belichick would have used the #3 pick on a player he doesn’t think is anywhere near as good as the guy picked at 7. Belichick would have brought in a free agent QB, as he did with Cam Newton. And they would have sucked as bad as Cam Newton.
Not if the QB were Baker Mayfield.
 
Who is calling out his fundamentals? Is it a quarterbacks coach? Do they actually know anything about the fundamentals they are critiquing? Do they have a fundamentals cam? Or is it drunken fans who are pissed they lost Sunday?

If it’s someone like Gruden , or Matt Ryan etc…. I’m more than willing to look at what they are talking about. They could well be right. If it’s Patsfan2 or those like him then it’s just their anger talking, as they are critiquing something they know nothing about, and they don’t have camera angles available that would allow them to actually see what he’s doing fundamentally.
Just plain old football fans like me. Only played sandlot (town too small to have a team) so my only experience is about 70 years of watching, listening and reading about it. Even a dumbass like me can see when his feet are not set, backing up. Maybe what he is lacking is the commitment to working to improve or maybe he just can't grasp it. Regardless, it's still a thing and he's the only one that can do anything about it.
 
This is not true
Agree, just another example of someone expanding on someone else's comment and giving it a different context.
 
No reason to think Bill would have drafted Maye at 3. A raw QB like Maye has never been Bill's MO for a franchise QB. If it was he would have moved up in the draft for Fields or Wilson in 2021 instead of Mac Jones who was supposed to be polished and pro ready. I know the cult likes to fabricate stories on why BB picked Mac Jones to make their hero look better but the fact is Jones IS Bill's type of QB.

BB would have picked JJ or Nix at 3 if he was here.
 
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Agree, just another example of someone expanding on someone else's comment and giving it a different context.
He always makes up a quote and attributes it to Belichick, although belichick never said that.
 
Just plain old football fans like me. Only played sandlot (town too small to have a team) so my only experience is about 70 years of watching, listening and reading about it. Even a dumbass like me can see when his feet are not set, backing up. Maybe what he is lacking is the commitment to working to improve or maybe he just can't grasp it. Regardless, it's still a thing and he's the only one that can do anything about it.
Can you cite examples?
 
....Because he's not even into one full year with a new coaching staff?
Some QBs work with private coaches during the offseason. Brady did. That's the thing: maybe Drake *did* work during the offseason, but we just didn't hear about it. But if he did, looks like it didn't take.
 
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It’s basically a few plays a game that he needs to calm down and reset himself
to act like it’s a major issue that he needed to work on in the off-season forever because he does not know how to throw is just crazy
"It's not a major issue." But blowing 3-4 throws a game because your footwork or motion are still shaky could mean the difference between winning and losing. It sounds like you're saying his fundamentals aren't an area of concern anymore. Problem is I remember lots of discussion about his questionable footwork and throwing motion pre-draft, and that being a point of emphasis during year 1. That all was overblown and never really a concern? I'm no expert, but blowing 3-4 throws a game due to fundamental issues sounds like a big deal to me.
 
Always blew me away that people genuinely think coaching is that material to the development of a proffessional athlete. This is any sport and not just football.
Tom Brady disagrees with you. He worked relentlessly in the offseason with various coaches., including QB guru Tom Martinez.

Unless a player has the required innate talent, skill and drive, the coaching means absolutely nothing.
So coaching *is* material if a player meets those requirements? I'm confused.

Drake will sink or swim based on his own capabilities. Patriots fans have a distorted view of how hard it is to become a good QB in the NFL.
Earlier you called out a critical characteristic: drive. Drake has all the physical gifts to be a superstar, but is he driven? For coaching to be material as you say, a player needs to be driven to get better, like Tom was, and that was a part of my OP: where is Drake Maye's drive? Was he working with a Tom Martinez during the offseason?
 
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I agree that Maye made some great throws into very tight windows, but those throws might lead to unnecessarily throwing into double and triple coverage. Maye's footwork still needs improvement, and his rapid recognition needs to improve. Maye does well if his 1st or 2nd read is open.
His poorer performance with later reads is probably partly related to running for his life last season. His timer runs down quickly.
 
Belichick never would have drafted Maye and he made that very clear when the pick was made. signbabybill knows this but continues to play make believe. His quote was “ he thinks he’s Josh Allen, but he’s no Josh Allen!” Josh Allen was taken with the #7 pick, Maye went at #3. signbabybill and the cult want to rewrite history to pretend that Belichick would have used the #3 pick on a player he doesn’t think is anywhere near as good as the guy picked at 7. Belichick would have brought in a free agent QB, as he did with Cam Newton. And they would have sucked as bad as Cam Newton.
Anyone at 3 was taking Maye. You're making up your own version of events just to hate BB. Hucklebaby just wants to cry about how mean Belichick was.
 
Can you cite examples?
Just looking at Lazar's "After further review" for the past year provides plenty of visual examples.
 
Just looking at Lazar's "After further review" for the past year provides plenty of visual examples.
So is that a no? Of is that someone told you so?
 
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