Why haven't Drake's fundamentals been fixed?

[Force Zero Boomer]

I recall fundamentals were a huge point of emphasis last year, and if memory serves, he made significant progress. But now his fundamentals are being called out as partly responsible for his inaccuracy, both in preseason and last Sunday. So, are his fundamentals still a big issue? And if yes, why did he regress? Why didn't he come back this spring with those locked down? If he was even moderately like TB12 in terms of his drive to be better, he'd have been working over the whole offseason to improve fundamentals. Either he didn't work very hard on it, or he did and it didn't take. Both are red flags to me. Am I off base here?

 

[Gumby]

Lots of guys never fix all their issues. IIRC 2002-2007 or so; one of the things w Tom was that he or the coaches identified the top 1 or 2 issues at season end. He would focus almost solely on those two things in offseason. Plus he had tom house.

I suspect [w absolutely no evidence to back me up] between the coaching turbulence & being his first pro season; he is just trying to fix too many things simultaneously in this off & season start.

 

[mgteich]

I recall fundamentals were a huge point of emphasis last year, and if memory serves, he made significant progress. But now his fundamentals are being called out as partly responsible for his inaccuracy, both in preseason and last Sunday. So, are his fundamentals still a big issue? And if yes, why did he regress? Why didn't he come back this spring with those locked down? If he was even moderately like TB12 in terms of his drive to be better, he'd have been working over the whole offseason to improve fundamentals. Either he didn't work very hard on it, or he did and it didn't take. Both are red flags to me. Am I off base here?

Are you asking why Maye didn't learn enough under last year's coaching?

Or do you think that 3-4 months of camp under Josh is enough to correct all needs to learded and corrected?

 

[Huckleberry1]

I recall fundamentals were a huge point of emphasis last year, and if memory serves, he made significant progress. But now his fundamentals are being called out as partly responsible for his inaccuracy, both in preseason and last Sunday. So, are his fundamentals still a big issue? And if yes, why did he regress? Why didn't he come back this spring with those locked down? If he was even moderately like TB12 in terms of his drive to be better, he'd have been working over the whole offseason to improve fundamentals. Either he didn't work very hard on it, or he did and it didn't take. Both are red flags to me. Am I off base here?

Who is calling out his fundamentals? Is it a quarterbacks coach? Do they actually know anything about the fundamentals they are critiquing? Do they have a fundamentals cam? Or is it drunken fans who are pissed they lost Sunday?

If it’s someone like Gruden , or Matt Ryan etc…. I’m more than willing to look at what they are talking about. They could well be right. If it’s Patsfan2 or those like him then it’s just their anger talking, as they are critiquing something they know nothing about, and they don’t have camera angles available that would allow them to actually see what he’s doing fundamentally.

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

Who is calling out his fundamentals? Is it a quarterbacks coach? Do they actually know anything about the fundamentals they are critiquing? Do they have a fundamentals cam? Or is it drunken fans who are pissed they lost Sunday?

If it’s someone like Gruden , or Matt Ryan etc…. I’m more than willing to look at what they are talking about. They could well be right. If it’s Patsfan2 or those like him then it’s just their anger talking, as they are critiquing something they know nothing about, and they don’t have camera angles available that would allow them to actually see what he’s doing fundamentally.

You don't have to be a supposed expert or a drunk fan. Look at Maye's footwork on his first pass, if you didn't recognize immediately that something was wrong, than you have never played sports.

 

[Love The Drake]

You don't have to be a supposed expert or a drunk fan. Look at Maye's footwork on his first pass, if you didn't recognize immediately that something was wrong, than you have never played sports.

I’m hoping it’s just as simple as telling him Drake do the fricking fundamentals.

 

[KCSVEN]

It’s because people say mechanics you think every throw has mechanic issues like Justin Fields and the wonky elbow and Josh Allen’s over stride (since fixed).
Drake has good mechanics on most throws but people like to throw mechanics are an issue whe he doesn’t properly set his feet to throw. Of course every QB has bad mechanics based on that definition.
The main issue is there are too many times like the DD overthrow where he does have time to reset and throw with proper mechanics and does not.
Game moves fast, many times you can’t. Mahomes might have the worst mechanics in the NFL based on throws without proper mechanics yet he’s had success.

It’s basically a few plays a game that he needs to calm down and reset himself
to act like it’s a major issue that he needed to work on in the off-season forever because he does not know how to throw is just crazy

 

[Huckleberry1]

It’s because people say mechanics you think every throw has mechanic issues like Justin Fields and the wonky elbow and Josh Allen’s over stride (since fixed).
Drake has good mechanics on most throws but people like to throw mechanics are an issue whe he doesn’t properly set his feet to throw. Of course every QB has bad mechanics based on that definition.
The main issue is there are too many times like the DD overthrow where he does have time to reset and throw with proper mechanics and does not.
Game moves fast, many times you can’t. Mahomes might have the worst mechanics in the NFL based on throws without proper mechanics yet he’s had success.

It’s basically a few plays a game that he needs to calm down and reset himself
to act like it’s a major issue that he needed to work on in the off-season forever because he does not know how to throw is just crazy

I see it kind of like a golf swing, you hit dozens of really good shots with good mechanics, but certain times you don’t set up right, or have a breakdown in one aspect of your swing and the shot goes awry. The more you work on it the better you get, but there will still always be moments when you have bad mechanics or poor judgement and bad **** happens as a result.

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

It’s because people say mechanics you think every throw has mechanic issues like Justin Fields and the wonky elbow and Josh Allen’s over stride (since fixed).
Drake has good mechanics on most throws but people like to throw mechanics are an issue whe he doesn’t properly set his feet to throw. Of course every QB has bad mechanics based on that definition.
The main issue is there are too many times like the DD overthrow where he does have time to reset and throw with proper mechanics and does not.
Game moves fast, many times you can’t. Mahomes might have the worst mechanics in the NFL based on throws without proper mechanics yet he’s had success.

It’s basically a few plays a game that he needs to calm down and reset himself
to act like it’s a major issue that he needed to work on in the off-season forever because he does not know how to throw is just crazy

I watched Maye's footwork on his first throw and thought that his mechanics have not improved.

I agree that Maye made some great throws into very tight windows, but those throws might lead to unnecessarily throwing into double and triple coverage. Maye's footwork still needs improvement, and his rapid recognition needs to improve. Maye does well if his 1st or 2nd read is open.

 

[TheRainMaker]

He needs to be coached by this guy.

 

[signbabybrady]

He needs to be coached by this guy.

Should have been this guy

 

[BennyBledsoe]

....Because he's not even into one full year with a new coaching staff?

 

[TheRainMaker]

Should have been this guy

This guy is my pick.

 

[mgteich]

I watched Maye's footwork on his first throw and thought that his mechanics have not improved.

I agree that Maye made some great throws into very tight windows, but those throws might lead to unnecessarily throwing into double and triple coverage. Maye's footwork still needs improvement, and his rapid recognition needs to improve. Maye does well if his 1st or 2nd read is open.

I think that we are all on the same page. Maye has talent, and traits and skills that need improvement, much of which should have worked on more last year. But it is what is, Drake needs time and games to develop into a top 10 QB.

Personally, I think that Maye is behind where Williams, Jaden, Nix and Penix were last year when they first played. (and is better than any of the 2025 QB's with possible exception of Dart).

But we knew that when we drafted him. We just didn't know that the coaching staff would waste a year. Eather than drafting a QB who was ready to play in the NFL, we chose the QB with the highest ceiling of anyone available (IMO, second to Jaden).

 

[PancakeBlockPaul]

They haven’t been “fixed” because he’s probably been doing those things a good portion of his playing time from high school to now so it’s probably going to take a season or 5 /S to break him of those habits. Like any other bad habits from watching porn and not clearing your history on your wife’s pc, to always looking at the new girl’s (or boy’s for those into that) ass when walking by you at work…some habits are hard to break….

 

[dliverey44]

Should have been this guy

That guy would not have drafted Maye, imo

 

[Jim Beankie]

I recall fundamentals were a huge point of emphasis last year, and if memory serves, he made significant progress. But now his fundamentals are being called out as partly responsible for his inaccuracy, both in preseason and last Sunday. So, are his fundamentals still a big issue? And if yes, why did he regress? Why didn't he come back this spring with those locked down? If he was even moderately like TB12 in terms of his drive to be better, he'd have been working over the whole offseason to improve fundamentals. Either he didn't work very hard on it, or he did and it didn't take. Both are red flags to me. Am I off base here?

Couldn't they come up with a better word for it? Sounds like an old girlfriend... fun, dumb, and mental.

I know it doesn't contribute to the thread but I'm drunk, and I don't care.

 

[Ring 6]

I recall fundamentals were a huge point of emphasis last year, and if memory serves, he made significant progress. But now his fundamentals are being called out as partly responsible for his inaccuracy, both in preseason and last Sunday. So, are his fundamentals still a big issue? And if yes, why did he regress? Why didn't he come back this spring with those locked down? If he was even moderately like TB12 in terms of his drive to be better, he'd have been working over the whole offseason to improve fundamentals. Either he didn't work very hard on it, or he did and it didn't take. Both are red flags to me. Am I off base here?

Yes you are

 

[Lagaffe_07]

They haven’t been “fixed” because he’s probably been doing those things a good portion of his playing time from high school to now so it’s probably going to take a season or 5 /S to break him of those habits. Like any other bad habits from watching porn and not clearing your history on your wife’s pc, to always looking at the new girl’s (or boy’s for those into that) ass when walking by you at work…some habits are hard to break….

Everyone giving credit to Daboll for Josh Allen development. He had some part of it but I think the most responsible person for Josh Allen becoming great IS Josh Allen.

He understood that for him to become great he had to fix his mechanics. He couldn’t hit the side of barn when he came out of college. But he became maniacal about his mechanics, honestly on almost a Brady level and that fixed a lot of his problems.

I am sorry but Drake Maye need to do the same. He is very talented and I don’t think mentally he can’t process but right now I don’t feel he is a player that has the drive to do everything he could to get better and become great. He is a professional football player now and the onus isn’t solely on the coaching staff to fix Drake’s mechanics.

His footwork and his mechanics where the biggest knock on him coming out of college. My opinion is that we should have heard all offseason how he worked with a QB guru to fix it. Right now i feel he expect the coaching staff to work on that during practice but doesn’t feel the need to have to work on it by itself l.

 

[ahmed]

Lots of guys never fix all their issues. IIRC 2002-2007 or so; one of the things w Tom was that he or the coaches identified the top 1 or 2 issues at season end. He would focus almost solely on those two things in offseason. Plus he had tom house.

I suspect [w absolutely no evidence to back me up] between the coaching turbulence & being his first pro season; he is just trying to fix too many things simultaneously in this off & season start

Always blew me away that people genuinely think coaching is that material to the development of a proffessional athlete. This is any sport and not just football.

Unless a player has the required innate talent, skill and drive, the coaching means absolutely nothing.

Drake will sink or swim based on his own capabilities. Patriots fans have a distorted view of how hard it is to become a good QB in the NFL.