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The latter was addressed to fnordcircle who has been here a lot longer than I.
where are YOU referenced? I don't get it...are you seeing Bigfoot and UFO's too?...or are you trying to insinuate yourself and your prodigious ego into an issue that on the face of it, has NOTHING to do with you...unless of course you have 4000 posts at the Tebow Shrine, use a different moniker and join in with the rest of the horrific, pathological hatred of anyone or anything in the way of Tebow and his rise to greatness. If so...forgive me.