Who the hell is our strength and conditioning coach/staff?

[Jim Beankie]

From the Pats team website:

Deron Mayo

COACHING​

​

Deron Mayo enters his first season as head strength and conditioning coach and his seventh season with the New England Patriots in 2024. Mayo joined the organization in 2018 after playing linebacker for the Calgary Stampeders of the Canadian Football League for six seasons. He leads the team's year-round strength and conditioning program following attaining a master's degree in high performance sport from the University of Technology-Sydney.​

Deron Mayo was hired by the Patriots as the assistant strength and conditioning coach in 2018.

So reading between the lines, he learned everything from Moses Cabrera.

If the team wanted to make a break from Cabrera, why promote his assistant?

I've been questioning the Pats' S&C team for years now. The Jake Bailey stuff makes me think they've been doing a cookie cutter approach versus an individualized one, but that's just a wild guess and may not be fair to them.

 

[Vindicate]

One consistency across the injuries, after thinking about it, are as follows:

They're largely the OLine - is this just a product of poor luck, poor play (bad body mechanics and constantly getting blown up), or poor coaching (OL/or S&C)?

The other injuries could be somehow related to the staff, but it's hard to tell off just a timeline alone, to @kmac14 's point.

 

[MrBigglesWorth]

Didn't know this. This staff gets worst, we basically are getting guys for their first rodeo. Give me someone who did their time and got their experience

 

[sportnik]

Deron’s a dud. He was living in his brother’s basement until Jerrod charmed Thundercat into taking control of this once great franchise.

Deron has as much business being a strength & conditioning coach at the NFL level, as his brother has being HC. Both are wholly incompetent & this franchise is dead until Thundercat hires a real coach.

 

[Toofy]

I am thinking poor fundamentals coupled with lack of talent and conditioning is causing these issues. We can't change talent level but we can make up for it by better conditioning and honing of fundamentals . The amount of times the Oline has to jump up and down after every snap with their body weight and weight of others is insane. It's a pretty grueling task. I hope they get individualized plans towards the same.

 

[Hart Lee Chung]

Many injuries around the league. There are other factors to consider.

 

[Vindicate]

Maybe I shouldn't have made the title as inflammatory as I did (it was during the 4th Q yesterday lol), as after folks pointed out Deron had been with the team for quite sometime, it's not exactly like we just scooped up someone randomly. This guy was inhouse before Mayo got here.

I'm leaning more towards the @Toofy explanation: this O-Line is getting demolished over and over. Beyond what it does to our QB, it also affects their careers. Conditioning could play a part, but fundamentals also are huge. I wonder what Scott Peters has been thinking with these slew of injuries. I'm not suggesting he's the issue, but I do wonder what he's thinking as this plays out (What can be done on my end? What coaching could I give to help?)

 

[PancakeBlockPaul]

Just using my teen MCL tear as an example from a real-life yearly Black & Orange scrimmage back in HS in 93'. A real ******* G thought it would be oh so cool to cut some new dude playing DT. I Had the dude beat and the pocket collapsed. The idiot/******* decided to dive at my knees so, intentionally trying to maim. All the conditioning in the world will not stop the effects of a 350 Lb man's shoulder making forceful contact with the side of your knee. Injuries just happen and sometimes being in prime condition can lessen the injury effects. Yes, conditioning can help, mainly with the recovery part., Experience told me that when a limb is in a restricted state (immobilized) for a decent amount of time, you are going to lose a lot of muscle and strength. Now admittedly, it has been some time since I had the pleasure of that happening to me yet surgery was not on the table/needed. So the more muscle mass you have when you get that injury, the less you will have on that road to recovery, and the real ***** of it is to get back to where you were. After 10 weeks of being in a brace that straightened my leg and did not let me bend it at all, almost all day every day, it looked like I lost 30 lbs from my leg which is career-changing or ending for these guys in the pros. Now I know things have come a long way since then....things like air casts and similar were not used all that often if at all. I just think several moving parts of the strength and conditioning team could play a better part in things. I think that players need a conditioning/hitting period of a set time during the offseason. I'm not talking about going 11 on 11 full contact except for the QB of course. No Oklahoma drills etc. They need to have something to toughen them up (not saying they're nancies). Just saying the earlier they start doing it, the more accustomed they will be to any contact during the actual season.

And yea I know that there's a preseason..... =P