Who is ready for an 8-2 run and some playoffs?

[sb1]

He’s the same height as Purdy, he’s almost two inches taller than Brees and Russell Wilson. Height is irrelevant if you can play.

The rest of your long winded drivel is presumption based off nothing.

Those guys have talent, Zappe doesn't and he can't play.

"Drivel" that 31 other teams agree with doesn't seem like it's based off nothing. Zappe blows and hopefully he is cut soon so we get a break from the Zappe Krishna pom pom waving.

 

[Wozzy]

Those guys have talent, Zappe doesn't and he can't play.

"Drivel" that 31 other teams agree with doesn't seem like it's based off nothing. Zappe blows and hopefully he is cut soon so we get a break from the Zappe Krishna pom pom waving.

“Talent,” that invisible unquantifiable trait that only you can see. Sounds legit.

Zappe set the single season passing yardage and TD record in NCAA history. He went to the combine, threw accurately and drove a ball 60+ yards downfield.

So your opinion of “no talent” is again based on nothing. You’re a part of the negative nancy “all things Patriots must suck” contingent.

I didn’t even say “start Zappe,” I said start Zappe or Grier… I don’t care which. I have no clue how they will play if prepared and schemed as starters, I just know after watching him for three years that Mac sucks.

 

[sb1]

“Talent,” that invisible unquantifiable trait that only you can see. Sounds legit.

Zappe set the single season passing yardage and TD record in NCAA history. He went to the combine, threw accurately and drove a ball 60+ yards downfield.

Lol yeah he's amazing that's why no other team wanted him when he was offered up for free. Including the teams at the bottom of the standings with the Pats. You think BB and BOB might be wrong, it's very doubtful that 31 teams are wrong. How's that single season passing yardage and TD record working out for him so far?

So your opinion of “no talent” is again based on nothing. You’re a part of the negative nancy “all things Patriots must suck” contingent.

Not at all. I like good QB play better than bad QB play and the fanboing for bad QB's annoys me. It's nothing more than that. Felt exactly the same about the Stidham talk.

I didn’t even say “start Zappe,” I said start Zappe or Grier… I don’t care which. I have no clue how they will play if prepared and schemed as starters, I just know after watching him for three years that Mac sucks.

No need to waste time on Zappe he'll be out of the league soon. Pointless to evaluate the offense with a guy like that running the show. Same with Grier. Grier couldn't even beat PJ Walker and Sam Darnold for his job so why should we think he's an upgrade over Mac?

 

[lancerman]

“Talent,” that invisible unquantifiable trait that only you can see. Sounds legit.

Zappe set the single season passing yardage and TD record in NCAA history. He went to the combine, threw accurately and drove a ball 60+ yards downfield.

So your opinion of “no talent” is again based on nothing. You’re a part of the negative nancy “all things Patriots must suck” contingent.

I didn’t even say “start Zappe,” I said start Zappe or Grier… I don’t care which. I have no clue how they will play if prepared and schemed as starters, I just know after watching him for three years that Mac sucks.

Every team in the league could have picked up Zappe for next to nothing and they didn't

 

[condon84]

Possible if they play like they did against the Bills.

But that would mean Mac has to play well.

 

[1960Pats]

It took this long for someone to realize this…lmfao

I saw it and checked the time to see if it was before the game but I decided to leave it alone. I know what he meant.

 

[Huckleberry1]

Kansas City?

 

[1960Pats]

im an optimist traditionally, but the scope of the team and that loss in vegas make it hard to think this can happen.

Before the season I thought if we were 3-5 at this point we may have a chance to get 5 straight in this stretch here and challenge for the playoffs . We did it in 21 winning 7 straight against mid competition. But this team isn’t the 21 team, maybe its the loss of judon but the defense isn’t what it needs to be to offset our stale offense. It was the last two years.

And if we cant win games like @vegas it’s unlikely we beat 5 other teams consecutively. After the buffalo game there was hope that we turned a corner offensively, but then yesterday it was back to same ole. Until you get consistent showings like vs Buffalo and philly that its hard to imagine us winning more than 5 or 6 games this year.

I feel like we're lucky that we're going through this now (after 20 years of dominance) and not after being Browns, Bears or Jets fans for 20 years. We can always put in one of our many videos.

 

[PATSYLICIOUS]

I feel like we're lucky that we're going through this now (after 20 years of dominance) and not after being Browns, Bears or Jets fans for 20 years. We can always put in one of our many videos.

We’re going the way of what every other great dynasty has gone, its all part of the deal brother! 49ers and cowboys saw some dark years in the 2000’s, same with the Steelers in the 80s. had to figure itll be some time before we start winning again. I had faith that the GOAT coach might have one more run in him but unfortunately its really looking like things have passed him by. We have to try(and likely fail) some new things now until we get it right again.

 

[Wozzy]

Lol yeah he's amazing that's why no other team wanted him when he was offered up for free. Including the teams at the bottom of the standings with the Pats. You think BB and BOB might be wrong, it's very doubtful that 31 teams are wrong. How's that single season passing yardage and TD record working out for him so far?

Not at all. I like good QB play better than bad QB play and the fanboing for bad QB's annoys me. It's nothing more than that. Felt exactly the same about the Stidham talk.

No need to waste time on Zappe he'll be out of the league soon. Pointless to evaluate the offense with a guy like that running the show. Same with Grier. Grier couldn't even beat PJ Walker and Sam Darnold for his job so why should we think he's an upgrade over Mac?

Again this ^ is a long winded load of negative presumptuous tripe with zero actual facts involved. Given both you and @lancerman replied with the same "nobody took Zappe when he got moved to the practice squad" I may as well address you both.

Nobody snatched Troy Brown, Danny Amendola, Arian Foster, Brandon Marshall, Jason Peters or Kurt Warner from their original team's practice squad either... did they have "talent?"

32 teams passed on Brock Purdy for seven rounds right up until the very last pick in the draft... but I can distinctly remember both of you here on draft day pounding the table for the Patriots to pick Purdy in the 7th round... right? I mean, you two have such firm grasp for recognizing talent... right?

Oh wait, no... you weren't here pounding the table for Purdy. And no, you weren't suggesting the 49ers bench their first and second string QB's to put the third stringer in... also the 49ers are such a well run organization, surely they can spot talent and knew they should have been starting Purdy all along... right?

Somebody posted a stat around the end of camp that showed less than 2% of players get poached off practice squads after camp concludes. I would guess that the percentage of QB's that get poached is substantially less. Other teams have their own project QB's, and committing to putting one on your active roster for a month while trying to teach them an entirely new system a week before the start of the season is a nonstarter... it would be dumb.

BB tried to exploit the league's new practice squad rules this season by grabbing Matt Corral and placing Zappe on the practice squad... and the NFL literally changed the rule so he couldn't. And you think that's indicative of something, even though Zappe never emptied out his locker and knew he was coming back. All this proves is you don't understand the process, or how 32 teams including the Patriots really feel about Zappe.

And again... I said start Zappe or Grier, I don't care who... anyone but Mac.

 

[Hyped]

All righty, then!

Pass me the Kool Aid!!

LFG!!

 

[FCB02062]

Detroit started 2-6 last year and finished 9-8.

Detroit also had the #5 scoring offense last season. you need to score points to win in the modern NFL. during their run, Detroit scored 21 or more 7/9 games. I can't see the Patriots scoring that many points necessary to win 7 games.

 

[Real fan 02]

Only one of us (you) is claiming to know how Zappe/Grier would perform if given starter reps in practice and with a gameplan built around them.

I never claimed to know, but Zappe is 2-0 as a starter in the same exact conditions Mac played in last year. Zappe posted a 100+ QB Rating over two starts.

BB really likes Mac, Obie came here to work with Mac... they both could be wrong, they're not omniscient. If BB knew all, he would have started Brady in 2001 from day one.

I would entertain Grier. Zappe flashed in a pan and then got exposed. Seriously I would like to see what Grier could do.. I honestly feel it's just time to part ways.. allow Mac a fresh start someplace else.

 

[Real fan 02]

We are indeed in football purgatory. Not a lot of fun. I didn't think we would crater with BB as coach over a couple of seasons to replenish the roster with good young talent but maybe I was wrong and that's what they're doing...then if it is maybe we do have something to look forward to just gotta ride this out for hopefully not too long.

Very possible Mac could use a change of scenery. Feel the same way about Fields who was also not set up for success in Chicago.

I could very well see minny inquiring about Mac. RK would nix the deal becuase Mac is under team control with his contract. Yesterday, not that we needed to be shown that.. but it was a clear talent issue. Myers was the surest WR we had we couldn’t/didn't retain him.

Juju now has to play by default, Parker nothing new but even when's he's on the field it is like he isn't.. so it's all about the young and unproven players from here on out.

 

[TheRainMaker]

Too many injuries to a team that already wasn't good. Just enjoy the rest of the season no matter how it turns out.

 

[Wozzy]

I would entertain Grier. Zappe flashed in a pan and then got exposed. Seriously I would like to see what Grier could do.. I honestly feel it's just time to part ways.. allow Mac a fresh start someplace else.

Two starts by Zappe is a small sample size, but he was wildly efficient. When did he get exposed?

Using the few times he's entered a game the end of a one sided blowout where our players have given up is not "getting exposed." It's being handed a dirt covered piece of horse meat on a shingle and asked to turn it into a succulent meal.

 

[Wozzy]

I could very well see minny inquiring about Mac. RK would nix the deal becuase Mac is under team control with his contract. Yesterday, not that we needed to be shown that.. but it was a clear talent issue. Myers was the surest WR we had we couldn’t/didn't retain him.

Juju now has to play by default, Parker nothing new but even when's he's on the field it is like he isn't.. so it's all about the young and unproven players from here on out.

So last week with the same exact "talent," the Patriot offense put up the most points scored, third most total yards and second most passing yards a much better Bill's defense has allowed all season... but this week they didn't have the talent against a much worse Dolphin's D?

Sounds legit...

How about Mac reverted back into the pumpkin he has been the majority of this season. He even tried to ruin us in the Buffalo game, only their linebacker dropped a sure interception and Mac fumbled the ball but one of our lineman recovered it. He did his best to submarine that game as well, but his teammates saved him from himself.

 

[sb1]

So last week with the same exact "talent," the Patriot offense put up the most points scored, third most total yards and second most passing yards a much better Bill's defense has allowed all season... but this week they didn't have the talent against a much worse Dolphin's D?

Sounds legit...

How about Mac reverted back into the pumpkin he has been the majority of this season. He even tried to ruin us in the Buffalo game, only their linebacker dropped a sure interception and Mac fumbled the ball but one of our lineman recovered it. He did his best to submarine that game as well but his teammates saved him from himself.

Seems odd to be fixated on the QB when the defense gave up 31 points, almost 400 yards of offense, 3 fourth down conversions, allowed 2 receivers to hit 100+ yards, couldn't get through a banged up OL to get to Tua and couldn't stop a nosebleed on 3rd and long.

 

[sb1]

Again this ^ is a long winded load of negative presumptuous tripe with zero actual facts involved. Given both you and @lancerman replied with the same "nobody took Zappe when he got moved to the practice squad" I may as well address you both.

Nobody snatched Troy Brown, Danny Amendola, Arian Foster, Brandon Marshall, Jason Peters or Kurt Warner from their original team's practice squad either... did they have "talent?"

32 teams passed on Brock Purdy for seven rounds right up until the very last pick in the draft... but I can distinctly remember both of you here on draft day pounding the table for the Patriots to pick Purdy in the 7th round... right? I mean, you two have such firm grasp for recognizing talent... right?

Oh wait, no... you weren't here pounding the table for Purdy. And no, you weren't suggesting the 49ers bench their first and second string QB's to put the third stringer in... also the 49ers are such a well run organization, surely they can spot talent and knew they should have been starting Purdy all along... right?

Somebody posted a stat around the end of camp that showed less than 2% of players get poached off practice squads after camp concludes. I would guess that the percentage of QB's that get poached is substantially less. Other teams have their own project QB's, and committing to putting one on your active roster for a month while trying to teach them an entirely new system a week before the start of the season is a nonstarter... it would be dumb.

BB tried to exploit the league's new practice squad rules this season by grabbing Matt Corral and placing Zappe on the practice squad... and the NFL literally changed the rule so he couldn't. And you think that's indicative of something, even though Zappe never emptied out his locker and knew he was coming back. All this proves is you don't understand the process, or how 32 teams including the Patriots really feel about Zappe.

And again... I said start Zappe or Grier, I don't care who... anyone but Mac.

Zappe blows, no reason to think Grier is any better... keep Mac until someone better comes along.

 

[MrTibbs]

Not impossible or probable but it would be fun.