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The best use of a 1st round draft pick in franchise history?

1) Bill Belichick
2) John Hannah
3) Vince Wilfork
4) Ty Law
5) Richard Seymour
6) Jarod Mayo -- likely to go up
7) Bruce Armstrong
8) Logan Mankins
9) Stanley Morgan
10) Devin McCourty-- likely to go up

others of note: Willie McGinest, Raymond Clayborn, Sam Cunningham, Irving Fryar

I would put Seymour #3. I would have Armstrong higher than Mayo. Where is Mike Haynes? McCourty doesn't belong on this list yet. Nick Buoniconti also belongs on this list.
 
Nick Buoniconti also belongs on this list.

Buoniconti was drafted in the thirteenth round of the 1962 AFL draft, since he was considered by NFL scouts as "too small" to play pro football.

That makes any top 10 list of bad pre-draft analyses!
 
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We didn't actually use a first round pick on Seymour. We just loaned it out for 10 years.

We can just add another player onto the same line:

3) Seymour and... (Mark Ingram?)
 
While we are on the subject. I know we got a pick from the Jets for the Tuna. What did we do with it?
I know the Pats got four picks over three years in exchange for Parcells, but as I recall Bobby Grier got did not get anybody of any value with any one of those four picks.


Edit: the Pats got a 3rd & 4th in the 1997 draft, a 2nd in 1998, and a 1st in 1999. The Jets had the #1 overall pick in '97 and Kraft wanted that #1 pick in exchange for the Jets tampering with Parcells while the Pats were preparing to play the Super Bowl against Green Bay.

1997 3rd: RB Sedrick Shaw
1997 4th: OL Damon Denson
1998 2nd: WR Tony Simmons
1999 1st: LB Andy Katzenmoyer
 
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Drew Bledsoe doesn't even get an honorable mention? As much as he drove me mad at times, he was an integral part of re-building this franchise.

Don't forget Mike Haynes the HOF CB, and Nick Buoniconti, the HOF MLB either too.
 
Don't forget Mike Haynes the HOF CB, and Nick Buoniconti, the HOF MLB either too.

Nick wasn't a 1st round pick (13th round pick, actually) and Mike Haynes is just outside the top 10 when I updated the list. If so many of his best years weren't as a Raider, Haynes would be higher for sure.

top 10 most effective uses of a Patriots first round draft pick:

1) Bill Belichick
2) John Hannah
3) Richard Seymour
4) Ty Law
5) Stanley Morgan
6) Vince Wilfork
7) Bruce Armstrong
8) Sam Cunningham
9) Jarod Mayo -- likely to go up
10) Willie McGinest


honorable mention:
Devin McCourty,
Logan Mankins,
Drew Bledsoe,
Raymond Clayborn,
Mike Haynes,
the trade-down out of round 1 to net Gronkowski, Butler, Tate, and Edelman rather than making the pick used for Clay Matthews
 
We can just add another player onto the same line:

3) Seymour and... (Mark Ingram?)

In that same vein....the same pick used to Draft Bledsoe also netted us Ty Warren.

Anytime you can get two starters out of one draft pick, you are doing well.
 
Nick wasn't a 1st round pick (13th round pick, actually) and Mike Haynes is just outside the top 10 when I updated the list. If so many of his best years weren't as a Raider, Haynes would be higher for sure.


This misperception is very common, but it really is a misperception. If you look at Haynes' career splits between Pats/Raiders, it's nearly identical. It's something like 7 years with each team, 6 pro bowls with Pats and 5 with Raiders, Rookie of Year, while with Pats, etc. etc.

The main difference is that most of the Pats teams he played on weren't terribly good (some were, however) while some of his Raiders teams were VERY good/memorable, including a SB ring of course.

There is NO WAY a guy who had 5 or 6 Pro Bowls nad was Rookie of the Year while with the Pats doesn't make the top 10 for our first round picks.
 
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Ugh.

After reviewing this thread and posting, I decided to do a quick review of all of our first round picks. Yeesh. There were some Jest-like years in there. '89-91 might be the worst. 2 first rounders in the latter two years and who do we take with five first rounders?:

'89: Hart Lee Dykes (16)
'90: Chris Singleton (8)
'90: Ray Agnew (10)
'91: Pat Harlow (11)
'92: Leonard Russell (14)


Not that they were all busts, but none of those was anything more than JAG, really. The 1991 draft was a very weak draft, actually, but the Pats had the #1 pick overall and traded it to the 'boys for the 11 and 41 picks. The #1 pick was Russell Maryland, who was at least above-average for his position.
 
Sebastian Janikowski at 17!!! I forgot about that, all I have to say is OMG. Imagine how dissapointing it must feel to see your team draft a kicker in the 1st round.
I know, that was the worst use of a 1st round pick of all time.

And you'd think nobody would top the Jets talking a FB in the top 5 of the draft.

Jon Gruden and Bruce Allen were pretty damn arrogant that day and explained that a kicker was their only need.

Seriously.

I do remember that the Raiders lost a lot of games because their kickers were missing a lot of kicks, but that will never warrant taking a kicker in the 1st round.

Getting back to the Jets, they used the pick from the Pats to swap with San Fransisco to take Shaun Ellis.

Ellis and Abraham were pretty scary their first few years together and they terrorized Bledsoe in the first 3 games they faced him.
 
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