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Where does BJGE rank among AFC Backs

  • Between 1-4

    Votes: 2 3.8%
  • Between 5-8

    Votes: 11 20.8%
  • Between 9-12

    Votes: 30 56.6%
  • Between 13-16

    Votes: 10 18.9%

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Regardless, Foster is probably the best dual-threat RB in the league right now.
Jamal Charles is a better dual threat. Foster is having a great year though.
 
Jamal Charles is a better dual threat. Foster is having a great year though.

Jamaal Charles: 139 rushes, 848 yards, 6.1 YPC, 2 TDs; 30 recs, 356 yards, 1 TD.

Foster: 194 rushes, 1004 yards, 5.2 YPC, 12 TDs; 39 recs, 378 yards, 1 TD.

Sorry, but at this point it's Foster.
 
Absolutely no shot that the Patriots DON'T draft a running back high next year.
 
Jamaal Charles: 139 rushes, 848 yards, 6.1 YPC, 2 TDs; 30 recs, 356 yards, 1 TD.

Foster: 194 rushes, 1004 yards, 5.2 YPC, 12 TDs; 39 recs, 378 yards, 1 TD.

Sorry, but at this point it's Foster.
Well you should know stats are for losers, but if I was using those stats it looks like Charles is the Man. Also think about where the safties are lining up with Andre Johnson flanked out wide. I'm sure it looks very different when Defenses are playing the Chiefs.
 
Well you should know stats are for losers, but if I was using those stats it looks like Charles is the Man. Also think about where the safties are lining up with Andre Johnson flanked out wide. I'm sure it looks very different when Defenses are playing the Chiefs.

You should have just admitted you were wrong.

By the way:

Bowe: 45 receptions, 715 yards, 11 TDs
Johnson: 56 receptions, 813 yards, 4 TDs
 
You should have just admitted you were wrong.

By the way:

Bowe: 45 receptions, 715 yards, 11 TDs
Johnson: 56 receptions, 813 yards, 4 TDs
Bowe has just broken out as of late, so he wasn't getting a lot of double teams early, and please don't try to tell me bowe is a bigger deep threat then AJ. Moss draws a lot of coverage as well, but he doesn't have the stats that lots of WR's do.

Charles is just more explosive.
 
Bowe has just broken out as of late, so he wasn't getting a lot of double teams early, and please don't try to tell me bowe is a bigger deep threat then AJ. Moss draws a lot of coverage as well, but he doesn't have the stats that lots of WR's do.

Charles is just more explosive.

Charles may be more explosive, but he's less productive, and thus is not the best dual-threat RB in the NFL.
 
Near dead last, he is a product of Brady. NE passes to set up the run so you can plug Joe back there and produce.
 
I would be very surprised if the Pats didnt draft a RB in the 1st 2 rounds next year.

I think BJGE and Woodhead stay on the team, with Morris and Taylor leaving/retiring. Faulk will always have a spot on the team, but his health is a concern so thats why they should and will keep Woodhead around.

The Pats need a feature running back, it doesnt have to be a stud but someone like Smith or Dillon who can get 15-20 carries a game and be successful.
 
I think a lot of you guys are saying that BJGE is a "middle of the pack" type of guy and is good as a #2 because that is what you want him as. A lot of you guys want us to go all out and get a top RB in the draft but I don't see BB doing that. I think BJGE is the guy if he finished the season strong/stays healthy, and it looks like he will do that.
 
So far he's run 145 times for 627 yards and 4.3 ypc with 9 TD's

He's projected to finish the season with 912 yards and 13 TD's

Here's my rankings of AFC's RB's, based on this season and what they can do in the future...

1. Chris Johnson
2. Jamal Charles
3. MJD
4. Rashard Mendenhall
5. Arian Foster
6. Ray Rice
7. Knowshown Moreno
8. LaDainian Tomlinson
9. Darren McFadden
10. Ryan Mathews
11. Peyton Hillis
12. Joesph Addai
13. BJGE
14. Cedric Benson
15. Ronnie Brown
16. CJ Spiller

I know BJGE wasn't even counted on this year and has done very well this year, based on the pats new offensive scheme post Randy, I think RB is a much more important position now then it used to be. I would love to see BJGE as our #2 back next year. He's worked hard and I'm pulling for him to succeed, but I just don't think he's a legitimate starting NFL back.

I'm not bashing him, just wondering if anyone thinks he should be our lead back next year?

Need to know everyones fumble totals to rank properly.
 
Absolutely no shot that the Patriots DON'T draft a running back high next year.

The Patriots have never drafted a running back high in the draft during the last decade. Whats that ? Laurence Maroney ? OK, except for Laurence Maroney, the Patriots haven't drafted a RB high in the draft during the last decade.
 
Jets OL are all Pro Bowlers, IMO BJGE numbers wont be worse than LT's.
IMO MJD is #2, he can carry the team all alone, Charles is awesome and the fastest guy in the league, but right now he is 1-2 punch guy .
 
I would be very surprised if the Pats didnt draft a RB in the 1st 2 rounds next year.

I think BJGE and Woodhead stay on the team, with Morris and Taylor leaving/retiring. Faulk will always have a spot on the team, but his health is a concern so thats why they should and will keep Woodhead around.

The Pats need a feature running back, it doesnt have to be a stud but someone like Smith or Dillon who can get 15-20 carries a game and be successful.



Dillon in his prime and in his first year as a patriot was a stud, top5 overall in the league, its a lol bit like Garnett in the Wolves, he was stuck on the Bengals ( and the Bengals OL that doesnt want to play for him ) but if we can get a Dillon in the first round next year, I 'll do
 
Believe that he is between 9-12, an amazing stat is 0 fumbles..

As the season wears on, more and more impressed with his consistent ability to gain positive yards on just about every carry..
 
I did a quick analysis of Total yards, Avg per carry, Yards per game, TDs and Fumbles.

Considering ranks in Yds, Avg, and Yds/G as twice weighted over TDs and Fumbles rankings yielded the following result wherein the lawfirm scored the 9th rank.

(in other words Rank = [2*R-Yds + 2*R-Avg + 2*R-Ypg + R-TDs + R-Fum]/8)

My weighting might be a bit random but it does provide some adjustment for merits beyond pure yardage without completely overwhelming the rankings.

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Rank	R-Yds	R-Avg	R-Y/G	R-TD	R-Fum	Player Name	Yds 	Avg 	Yds/G 	TD 	FUM
1	1	6	1	1	16	Arian Foster 	1147	5.1	104.3	12	2
2	2	1	2	15	17	Jamaal Charles 	1021	6.3	92.8	3	2
3	4	12	4	3	19	Chris Johnson 	973	4.4	88.5	9	2
4	8	7	6	9	21	D. McFadden 	773	4.9	85.9	4	2
5	3	17	3	9	18	M. Jones-Drew 	991	4.3	90.1	4	2
6	9	10	11	6	12	L. Tomlinson 	741	4.5	67.4	5	1
7	5	20	5	3	20	R. Mendenhall 	962	4	87.5	9	2
8	6	20	8	15	1	Ray Rice 	815	4	74.1	3	0
9	11	17	14	3	2	B. Green-Ellis 	627	4.3	57	9	0
10	10	20	12	6	13	Thomas Jones 	712	4	64.7	5	1
11	20	4	21	15	4	Danny Woodhead 	344	5.4	38.2	3	0
12	12	12	15	6	27	Fred Jackson 	621	4.4	56.5	5	3
13	17	12	10	15	24	Joseph Addai 	406	4.4	67.7	3	2
14	25	10	7	2	31	Peyton Hillis 	199	4.5	82.3	11	5
15	23	2	27	15	6	Derrick Ward 	216	6	19.6	3	0
16	7	29	9	9	30	Cedric Benson 	788	3.6	71.6	4	5
17	19	20	20	9	3	Michael Bush 	358	4	39.8	4	0
18	13	19	16	23	22	Shonn Greene 	575	4.1	52.3	1	2
19	15	12	19	21	28	Ricky Williams 	496	4.4	45.1	2	3
20	18	12	18	21	25	Ryan Mathews 	382	4.4	47.8	2	2
21	26	8	24	23	8	Mike Hart 	177	4.7	29.5	1	0
22	14	25	17	15	23	Ronnie Brown 	539	3.9	49	3	2
23	16	27	13	9	29	K. Moreno 	472	3.8	59	4	3
24	24	8	29	23	7	Javon Ringer 	205	4.7	18.6	1	0
25	28	5	28	23	9	R. Jennings 	153	5.3	19.1	1	0
26	31	3	26	28	11	Kevin Faulk 	45	5.6	22.5	0	0
27	21	30	22	23	5	Donald Brown 	289	3.3	36.1	1	0
28	22	27	25	9	26	Willis McGahee 	271	3.8	27.1	4	2
29	29	25	23	28	10	Fred Taylor 	98	3.9	32.7	0	0
30	27	20	31	28	14	C.J. Spiller 	164	4	18.2	0	1
31	30	31	30	28	15	L. Maroney 	74	2.1	18.5	0	1
 
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Dillon in his prime and in his first year as a patriot was a stud, top5 overall in the league, its a lol bit like Garnett in the Wolves, he was stuck on the Bengals ( and the Bengals OL that doesnt want to play for him ) but if we can get a Dillon in the first round next year, I 'll do

The Pats need a back like Smith or Dillon who can be physical and get first downs on 3rd and short. The Pats struggle running the ball in short yardage situations, and I dont think its the OL its more on the backs being too small.
 
The Patriots have never drafted a running back high in the draft during the last decade. Whats that ? Laurence Maroney ? OK, except for Laurence Maroney, the Patriots haven't drafted a RB high in the draft during the last decade.

And they learned a tough lesson in the process. There is a reason you don't do it especially here... We don't need a highstrung thoroughbred, we need a durable plowhorse with the versatility to hitch to the buggy on Sundays. And preferably a small stable of them. The bust and injury rate on RB is too risky in the early rounds, and when you lose them after making the investment that has already hurt you elsewhere...it sucks. Those first and early second rounders are best invested in the trenches. Behind which you'd be amazed how well a durable average back can perform with the threat that Tom Brady may or may not be handing him the ball or targeting him or one of his 3-4 receiving targets...

As for that list, perceived talent aside there are a couple of guys on it who aren't proving to be durable as well as one who is rapidly aging out and has little future value.
 
I think the 13-16 ranking is correct in a solid AFC RB group.

You should change Spiller with Jackson who is having a much better year.
 
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